Half of US kids will get food stamps, study says

[Riverwind]

Originally Posted by Old Greebo

Food stamps?
Do you mean little bits of paper, that people designated as 'poor' must use to 'buy', from otherwise commercially-oriented stores, certain designated food products that the US government deems they need in order to survive? Instead of using money?

Sorry, but I admit I don't know how 'food stamps' work. But the whole concept seems very demeaning and self-esteem-killing.

Perhaps a poverty-sympathetic American would spare a minute or two to explain to me (and to others who live in not-quite-communist areas like Britain) how food stamps work?

LOL
History, years ago you got scrip that had amounts on it and I always felt sorry for the people that used them because it was degrading but today they use a debit card just like you would get from the bank, it has money put on it and it works just like a debit card works. You can only buy food with it and not deli foods, they are good anywhere in the USA.

Hope that answers your question.

River

[A-1]

Confucius say...

In a country well governed, poverty is something to be ashamed of. In a country badly governed, wealth is something to be ashamed of.


Can't win with that, can you Ramses?

[moi621]

Wish it would be required that food stamps be used to purchase meat/fowl/fish, veges and fruits, eggs and milk.
Unfortunately they can be used for cocoa puffs.

[Riverwind]

yes, they can but they can't buy the roasted chicken because it is food ready to eat. How a person spends his hard earned EBT card is up to that person, the amount given is the same. However consider this, I got oranges from the store they were $1.49 a LB that was 3 oranges, so if I bought 6 oranges that would be about the same price as a box of coco puffs. the box of cereal would last a week and fill me for one meal, the oranges do not make a meal.

So here you say you want less government but then say that the government should tell you what you can eat and what you cant.

River

[gareth19]

Originally Posted by Riverwind

yes, they can but they can't buy the roasted chicken because it is food ready to eat. How a person spends his hard earned EBT card is up to that person, the amount given is the same. However consider this, I got oranges from the store they were $1.49 a LB that was 3 oranges, so if I bought 6 oranges that would be about the same price as a box of coco puffs. the box of cereal would last a week and fill me for one meal, the oranges do not make a meal.

So here you say you want less government but then say that the government should tell you what you can eat and what you cant.

River

The funny thing is the poor have to show a card to get a discount on restricted food so the middle class can gripe about taxpayer money, but if the rich had to use their huge tax breaks in in "Wealthfare Stamps" so you could see how much of your government largess is going for their frivolities, we'd have a whole different tax system.

[nullorchis]

Should anyone be so fortunate as to have access to money and/or food stamps to buy their own food they are responsible for what they buy and eat. Until we live in a total dictatorship, freedom means you are free to eat food that is laidened with fat, salt, cholesterol........or you are free to eat healthy grains, fruits, vegetables. Unfortunately healthy food does in general cost more than unhealthy food, so that does influence what people will buy and eat.

So, just what would happen if all food stamp programs were suddenly eliminated?
a) Our taxes would not go down
b) Government would waste that money in some other way
c) I really can't forcast what would happen to people who use food stamps.
d) There would be some other government program that we could complain about.

And that chicken you are eating was raised in a food factory that in no way resembles a farm and the chicken had about 60 square inches of space to live in, surrounded by thousands of other chickens, and it lived an awful life, a short life and was fed all kinds of chemically laidened products that one could hardly call "food". (Pretty much the same for most turkeys too)

[Riverwind]

yep the whole idea is to keep the chicken from moving from egg to axe, just eat and poop tell its time, Foster Farms is a good example of this, there located in Turlock California. Nice people

River

[moi621]

Originally Posted by Riverwind

yes, they can but they can't buy the roasted chicken because it is food ready to eat. How a person spends his hard earned EBT card is up to that person, the amount given is the same. However consider this, I got oranges from the store they were $1.49 a LB that was 3 oranges, so if I bought 6 oranges that would be about the same price as a box of coco puffs. the box of cereal would last a week and fill me for one meal, the oranges do not make a meal.

So here you say you want less government but then say that the government should tell you what you can eat and what you cant.

River

Restructure the system from the bottom up.

The failure to do that with health care will be the doom of reform.
Example- Dictate the % of the health care dollar that must go to the Health Care professional, limiting skimming.
Restructure the pay scale to health care providers as to represent time spent with a patient and not procedures.
These failures leaves us with the same broken system,
just funded differently.

Why? Oh, why is it so hard for people to work out problems with systems that are broken?
Blame it all on health care profiteers and Cocoa Puff manufacturers?
Are our leaders so stupid or is it all about vested interests?
Moi

[ramses]

LOL,,,, I just have to laugh when I go to the grocery store and I see what people buy with the Lone Star Card (Texas). A baskit full of SHIT paid for by people that WORK. I don't want people dying of malnutrition but I have no problem at all in someone feeling the pangs of hunger.

As watch the societal leaches empty their carts at the register, I can't help but think of the long line of poor life choices that has led up to this cart of poor choices.

If you are sucking the blood of productive citizens for your nourishment, you should get 2 choices at the grocery store. A sack of gruel that is nutritious yet bland and milk. Maybe throw in some bulk quantities of brown rice and dry beans.

Free lunch at school? Fuck that. If you can't feed your kids, they should get in the outmeal line for breakfast and the soup line at lunch. Sound cruel? net really. Training people to depend on the system is the ultimate cruelty. IF you feed a kid nutritious but tasteless and make them stand in the line of shame for poor kids, there is a good chance that they will want better for their kids and decide to take advantage of their free education and make something of themselves.

Welfare SHOULD suck. You SHOULD be embarrased if you rely on the wages of people that actually work.

[Riverwind]

I am not sure if your just being sarcastic or if you really believe what you just wrote. I am going to go with the sarcastic as I don't think anybody can be that cold.

River

[gareth19]

Originally Posted by ramses

LOL,,,, I just have to laugh when I go to the grocery store and I see what people buy with the Lone Star Card (Texas). A baskit full of SHIT paid for by people that WORK. I don't want people dying of malnutrition but I have no problem at all in someone feeling the pangs of hunger.

As watch the societal leaches empty their carts at the register, I can't help but think of the long line of poor life choices that has led up to this cart of poor choices.

If you are sucking the blood of productive citizens for your nourishment, you should get 2 choices at the grocery store. A sack of gruel that is nutritious yet bland and milk. Maybe throw in some bulk quantities of brown rice and dry beans.

Free lunch at school? Fuck that. If you can't feed your kids, they should get in the outmeal line for breakfast and the soup line at lunch. Sound cruel? net really. Training people to depend on the system is the ultimate cruelty. IF you feed a kid nutritious but tasteless and make them stand in the line of shame for poor kids, there is a good chance that they will want better for their kids and decide to take advantage of their free education and make something of themselves.

Welfare SHOULD suck. You SHOULD be embarrased if you rely on the wages of people that actually work.

Does that include people like George W. Bush whose whole family has been on public assistance since he was born? Whose medical expenses including his daughters' rehab has been paid for by the American taxpayer? You wanna see "welfare Moms" driving to "socialized" medical appointments in Mercedeses, look at your Congressman.