What would happen if....

[Mounds_dont]

... nationalized health care passed?

Where would it leave all of the eunuch wanna-be's?

I did some research on England and Canada, and it seems like they are less than willing to castrate men, even when it is for treatment for Prostate cancer, let alone an elective surgery.

Thoughts?

[Riverwind]

I think it can only get better because the medical community does not do elective castration today, so what would be the difference?

Jesus and others are working hard to get that changed and it seems to be working, I guess we will just need to wait and see.

River

[DavidB]

if national health care was passed a year ago, i would be dead. both the diagnostic treatment and the treatment for my cancer would not have been covered under the proposed plan.

i will throw this out there again. if 26 million people in this country dont have health care why arent we adrerssing that issue as oppossed to changing the whole system.

[Ptrlss]

Originally Posted by DavidB

if national health care was passed a year ago, i would be dead. both the diagnostic treatment and the treatment for my cancer would not have been covered under the proposed plan.

i will throw this out there again. if 26 million people in this country dont have health care why arent we adrerssing that issue as oppossed to changing the whole system.

re: "Changing The Whole System"... I read, and saw a picture of, the proposed health care law consisting of 2,000 type-written pages ! ! !
And I could not begin to comprehend What-n-the-hell kind of changes in Health CARE could take that size of volume to define it ????
Anyone care to explain..??

[Buzz1221]

"if national health care was passed a year ago, i would be dead. both the diagnostic treatment and the treatment for my cancer would not have been covered under the proposed plan."

...and you know this...how?

[Riverwind]

How can you say that, the plans (there are more then one) still have not been finalized.

Give me a break, that is just plan crap.

I am glad however that your cancer is being treated, I hope you beat it and that I mean with all my being. I just hope when your done with it you still have something left of your retirement, after paying the doctors hospitals etc.

River

[Mac]

Originally Posted by Ptrlss

re: "Changing The Whole System"... I read, and saw a picture of, the proposed health care law consisting of 2,000 type-written pages ! ! !
And I could not begin to comprehend What-n-the-hell kind of changes in Health CARE could take that size of volume to define it ????
Anyone care to explain..??

That is the one of the problems with the politics of most legislation. Every elected official has to get his/her piece of unrelated political pork and nobody has time to read everything before voting. The lawyers can't even understand it.

[Elizabeth]

Originally Posted by DavidB

if national health care was passed a year ago, i would be dead. both the diagnostic treatment and the treatment for my cancer would not have been covered under the proposed plan.

i will throw this out there again. if 26 million people in this country dont have health care why arent we adrerssing that issue as oppossed to changing the whole system.

What do you base this on? No one would have to change their coverage if they already like it. So under what law is it that you die? I want to see the verbiage of the law, unless of course this is just Republican talking points.

Elizabeth

[Mac]

Originally Posted by Elizabeth

What do you base this on? No one would have to change their coverage if they already like it. So under what law is it that you die? I want to see the verbiage of the law, unless of course this is just Republican talking points.

Elizabeth

Who wrote the 2000 pages of BS in the bill?

[kenny]

Ive been looking on www.whitehouse.gov. Health care bill look pretty positive to me.Just think if you want to retire early in life.At least you will still have a health care plan.Early retirement also open up jobs for the younger generation.For the mean time you can keep yor current insurance.Hope for early retirement im there.

[nullorchis]

Look at it a different way.

What would happen if.........all government regulations were removed and the health insurance companies could be completely free and do whatever they wanted?

Just why is it that the concept of a "public option" is even being considered?

It is because the insurance companies don't want to insure anyone who has been, is, or might become sick. They only want to insure those who are healthy and unlikely to get sick so that they can maximize profit. Thus they exclude people, deny claims, and cancel insurance coverage.

What's really sick is the insurance industry, not medical care.

And right now the tax payers are subsidizing the insurance industry and medical care to the tune of untold billions of dollars. How?

1.Hospitals and doctors submit inflated prices on their bills.
2.The insurance companies only "allow" a maximum amount to be paid, based upon contractual agreements.
3.The doctors and hospitals "write off" what the insurance companies won't pay.
4.Those write offs show up on the tax returns of hospitals and doctors as uncollectable billings, which in turn reduces their taxable income.
5.Result is less tax revenue paid to the governments.
6.Result is working tax payers, who get little to no write offs, pay for it via income and small business taxes.

And it is no different elsewhere in the non-medical corporate America.

Corporations via their greed is killing The United States of America. Unenforced, or unenforceable regulations are not helping to prevent this mass murder. As quickly as laws are passed the evil virus of corporate greed changes its tactics and attacks in a different way.

Not all industries or corporations are to blame. But there is enough blame to go around, in corporations large and small, that there is significant risk in total collapse of our entire economic stability. And our Senators and Representatives are in bed with this and are not part of the solution, they are part of the problem.

Rome, it was thought, was too big to fail or fall.
No civilization, society, people, government, corporation is too powerful or big to fail. All evidence indicates the US is digging itself further into a hole, not digging itself out of one.

If corporations get their way, health care changes, no matter what they are, will NOT be in YOUR best interest. The public option debate is almost a smokescreen to mask what is really going on with the meat and potatoes of health care insurance changes.

But health insurance is a mere tip of the ice berg. All governments from cities, counties, states, and federal are broke, running negative, going into debt. If you were to equate today with the pre-1930 depression, and what corporations were doing in the pre-depression era, our economy is teetering on the brink, with more reasons to collapse than revive. The recession of the past 2 years may just be a preamble of things to come; hopefully not or we will be in a real world of hurt.......for a generation or more. Health insurance, health care will be non-existent for most when the sweater really starts to unravel.