Received recently by email, Pt 1

[talula]

Is it still permissible for me to kill and burn and make sure such nonesense is not spread Krist?

[Paolo]

I think we are all in agreement that this fellow's observations as reposted at the beginning of this thread are nothing more than a large, steaming meadow muffin. Burn away, T..

[I Worship Women]

Like I said in my reply to the thread "Some people don't understand." Some e-mails are junk e-mail, just like the postal junk mail that clogs up your postal mailbox. It's best to handle it the same way one handles junk postal mail and phone calls from telemarketers.

Throw away the junk mail and forget about it.

Hang up on the telemarketers and forget about them.

Delete the junk e-mails and forget about them.

The e-mail that started this thread is not only junk, it is so huge it just clogs thing up. Get rid of it, delete it from your computer, and forget about it.

[Jesus]

The e-mail that started this thread is not only junk, it is so huge it just clogs thing up. Get rid of it, delete it from your computer, and forget about it.

Unfortunately, it's an "academic" article that was published in a peer-reviewed journal. It may well be on the shelf at your nearest university library. It uses US, here, the Eunuch Archive, as a resource for the research and directly quotes some of the posts that have been made here.

To call it "psycho-babble" is much kinder than I would go with it, and I'm an academic. I read (and sometimese even speak and write) the language.

Contact with the author gets the response that HE thinks it's all absolutely accurate and a fair picture of us and what goes on here....

[gpb3aol]

I'm sorry, it probably because I have very low T but this article gives me a headach.

[kristoff]

I'm sorry, it probably because I have very low T but this article gives me a headach.

Understandable. It is a piece of shit.

[Buddy666]

WHAT??? Having is lacking and lacking is the lack of lack? This is supposed to be a serious psychological evaluation or philosophical exercise, but all it seems to LACK is FOCUS. The ideas are only loosely connected and the train of thought runs well off the tracks. Furthermore the writer cannot be objective because of his (must be) admitted castration fetish. Objectivity is what makes the study of psychology a scientific pursuit instead of the self-indulgence seen here. I am not normally one to criticize, but I felt it necessary to speak. If I have a desire to lack any part of my male anatomy, it certainly has nothing to do with this joissance or whatever and everything to do with lack or self-esteem, self-worth, and being on the wrong end of a molester as a child. Telling a child that his willie will get cut off if he tells keeps a kid silent, at least until his mother scares him even more. How's that for psych? How about them apples?

[PeterSJC]

WHAT??? Having is lacking and lacking is the lack of lack? This is supposed to be a serious psychological evaluation or philosophical exercise, but all it seems to LACK is FOCUS. The ideas are only loosely connected and the train of thought runs well off the tracks. Furthermore the writer cannot be objective because of his (must be) admitted castration fetish. Objectivity is what makes the study of psychology a scientific pursuit instead of the self-indulgence seen here. I am not normally one to criticize, but I felt it necessary to speak. If I have a desire to lack any part of my male anatomy, it certainly has nothing to do with this joissance or whatever and everything to do with lack or self-esteem, self-worth, and being on the wrong end of a molester as a child. Telling a child that his willie will get cut off if he tells keeps a kid silent, at least until his mother scares him even more. How's that for psych? How about them apples?

To understand Joshua Dale's POV, or if you just want to be able to critique what he wrote, spend an hour or two perusing this article about Jacques Lacan, and the links therefrom: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?...ldid=388528687; and this article about Lacan's concept of Lack: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?...ldid=388534412. As far as I can tell, neither Dale's article nor Lacan's work addresses the issue of child molesters trying to scare their victims into silence.

Freudian theory has largely been superseded by newer science, and Dale's thesis obviously does not fit all (or even a majority of) men with castration desires or fantasies, but it makes a certain amount of sense and gives answers that some of these men, including Dale himself, find useful.

[PeterSJC]

Is it still permissible for me to kill and burn and make sure such nonesense is not spread Krist?

I think we are all in agreement that this fellow's observations as reposted at the beginning of this thread are nothing more than a large, steaming meadow muffin. Burn away, T..

Talula, that only makes sure that it is not spread here, which admittedly could be useful in sparing the feelings of those who were quoted in the article and protecting people who might be made uncomfortable or led astray.

Paolo, shouldn't we also follow the more time-honored approach of getting the actual journal from academic libraries and having a nice bonfire?

[Jesus]

I have just checked the download history of the article in question. I downloaded it when it was first posted. Two of my research colleagues each downloaded it. Kristoff downloaded it for posting here. I just opened the site again as the TENTH access. Consider the article dead. Just don't go in yourself to give it a higher hit count!!!






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[kristoff]

As one very well educated in Freudian theory, this article is what is often referred to as a POS (Piece of Shit). This article has far less credibility than Freudian theory itself.

[Conscientious]

I'd be more suprised to see a sexologist's study that wasn't blatantly fraudulent. He's neither honest nor objective, but he does make the occasional interest point.

[Paolo]

Wow, old thread.
The article still stinks, though.

[Am I you?]

WTF was this all about. I must have missed something or just didn't understand it
I agree it is just a POS

[SplitDik]

I don't think we should be so harsh on the article. While it certainly contains a lot of tenuous psychobabble, it is a serious attempt to understand the psychology behind genital cutting of various types, and it does so sympathetically.

I'd rather read hundreds of articles like this than one that dismisses castration fetish as being psychotic or any number of other negative mental illnesses.

I think we should applaud any serious attempt to sympathetically understand us.