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    Hide the effects as long as you want?

    Tha author of TS roadmap (www.tsroadmap.com) claims that "you can hide the effects of hormones for as long as you want in virtually every case."

    Is this true? She is the only person I've ever heard say this. Most everyone agrees there eventually comes a point, typically 1-2 years, when hiding the effects of hormones becomes difficult if not impossible.

    Any thoughts? By the way, I have another TG-related question in my Hair post in surgical castration.

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    Re: Hide the effects as long as you want?

    Hi Plix,

    I see you found our TG section.

    Quote Originally Posted by Plix
    The author of TS roadmap (www.tsroadmap.com) claims that "you can hide the effects of hormones for as long as you want in virtually every case."
    I don't believe that you can hide the effects indeffinately, but for a while, yes. I went for 2 years on hormones before comming out (I think that was stretching it a bit), but by that time people were starting to talk and ask questions. Even though I am older, the changes can and do happen that make people notice. Not so much in people that see you everyday, but the ones that don't see you that often. I think perhaps in your case, being younger, the changes can be even more dramatic. So that would give you a lot less time to conceal them. Most notable would be the softening of the skin and facial appearences (not to mention any breast growth which could be hidden) and the changes in muscle tone and fat redistribution.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Christina
    I think perhaps in your case, being younger, the changes can be even more dramatic. So that would give you a lot less time to conceal them. Most notable would be the softening of the skin and facial appearences (not to mention any breast growth which could be hidden) and the changes in muscle tone and fat redistribution.
    What type of timeline might I be looking at before I may have trouble concealing the effects you mentioned? The fact that I am castrated probably just makes it shorter, doesn't it?

    I'm part of a big-breasted family, and with my age and castration, I would imagine it is possible I could have decent development. Can even the biggest ones be hidden?

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    I'm going to have to guess at your age it might only take half the time it did for me. Castration or not, the changes will happen with the proper HRT regiment, but it will give you an advantage.

    Hiding your breasts can be done by binding them, although this may prove to be uncomfortable since they will be very tender at times. Other than that, you features that can't be hidden, the face, will most likely be noticed by others.

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    Hi! I'm with Christina here. Being so young things will happen faster.
    Also you will not have so many hurdles. As you get older and build a life, it is difficult to transition without very serious consequences ,I should know.
    As in another post, mine are Bs and easy to conceal. I love em.
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    I'm just worried I'll be in a position where I don't pass but it is obvious that I am trying to. I think that would be the worse position to be in, aside from not being able to transition at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Plix
    I'm just worried I'll be in a position where I don't pass but it is obvious that I am trying to. I think that would be the worse position to be in, aside from not being able to transition at all.
    There is going to be a time where you will be in between either role. You need to be prepared for this as it might just be the hardest time you'll ever face.

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    just a note of support, hope when that time comes you get throgh it ok .

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    I have found that you can easily hide the effects as long as you want, provided you are always fully dressed. You'll never be able to take your top off again without exposing female breasts and even wearing shorts can be revealing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by okie_paige
    I have found that you can easily hide the effects as long as you want, provided you are always fully dressed. You'll never be able to take your top off again without exposing female breasts and even wearing shorts can be revealing.

    Are you on hormones? If so, for how long?

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    Plix i am on female hormones and yes you can hide your brests unless you get caught without your shirt on and that dose happen.Listen to Christina she has been their and will help you all she can and by all means stay strong and dont be afraid to ask all the questions you want the people in here are the best people i know.
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    It is difficult to conceal significant breast developement. Binding them is downright uncomfortable. A minimiser bra reduces the forward projection somewhat but under light clothing the outline will be visible and the straps and especially across your back will be very noticeable. Look at the back of any woman in T shirt or such and her bra straps are obvious. Going braless is not an option either as they will jiggle once you have much more than an A cup and will be noticed. Your nipples may erect and are a dead giveaway. I now have full rounded B cup breasts and need to to wear a bra all the time and strangely I have had very few negative comments. Breast developement to a greater or lesser amount is a consequence of castration in all eunuchs but there is dramatic increase with female hormone therapy. I was an A cup without taking any hormones but they were pointy and not rounded as in a natal woman. I understand that you can expect to develop to be a cup size less than your mother or sisters. If that is true I will achieve a C cup and probably a D Cup. Carrying those in straps on my shoulders and back I hope will not cause any problems. Braless I am concious of the weight of by bust as it is but not so much in a Bra.

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    Re: Hide the effects as long as you want?

    Quote Originally Posted by plix View Post
    What type of timeline might I be looking at before I may have trouble concealing the effects you mentioned? The fact that I am castrated probably just makes it shorter, doesn't it?

    I'm part of a big-breasted family, and with my age and castration, I would imagine it is possible I could have decent development. Can even the biggest ones be hidden?
    Why would you want to hide them?
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    Re: Hide the effects as long as you want?

    This is one of those "your milage may vary" questions. If you are a bit pudgy or even on the top end of normal BMI, particularly if you have a large rib cage, it is possible to have significant breast development without showing significantly. On the other hand if you are thin with a relatively small rib cage any breast development can be very hard to hide.
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    Why would you want to hide them?
    It is common for trans women to try to get a running start on transition by beginning hormones before announcing to the world the official gender switch. This can result in the need to hide that which you will be flaunting later.

    I began hormones and blockers without any serious plans for transition; it was just something I wanted to do before the planned suicide. I was beginning hormones later in life, my immediate female relatives weren't that large breasted so according to online wisdom i wasn't going to have much breast development, so I was confident it wouldn't cause any problems. I was quite anorexic after the divorce, (everyone thought I was on meth) so when I had much more development, much quicker than could be expected, it caused problems for a bit.

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    Re: Hide the effects as long as you want?

    To me, each person is unique, to such extent that there is no decently honest way to compare one person with another without some sort of damage eventually becoming tragically likely. I do not assert that anyone else has, or does not have, life experiences similar to mine, for that would be one form of such an eventually likely form of tragic damage.

    I never set out to hide the effects of my being, if these are appropriate words, autistic and transgendered. This was not an act of will or courage in the face of social difficulty; I have never figured out how to hide successfully and be alive.

    I have no place in my life for being coerced by other people, regardless of how sincere they may be, regardless of what authority they claim to have over me and over my life, and I have no place in my life for coercing anyone else.

    What I do have in my life is a willingness to share with other people what I find I have learned, on the chance, whatever it may be, that someone else may find some use in something I shared. I do this because, for myself, my life would long ago have become impossibly agonizing had not other people shared with me what they had learned.

    Wisconsin, where my wife and I reside, has a marriage is between one man and one woman constitutional amendment. However, my wife and I moved to Wisconsin before that amendment was added to the Wisconsin Constitution. For us, the amendment is effectively a form of ex-post-facto law, and such laws are, on face value, as I understand the Constitution of the United States, inescapably unconstitutional.

    I find I have a constitutional issue in terms of my marriage, one which, because the State of Wisconsin is a party, appears to me to be such that the United States Supreme Court has original jurisdiction. Thus, I work away at writing a form of writ of mandamus, pro se.

    I identify as a colored person, neither white nor black nor any other fixed color, because, depending in part on sunlight exposure, I get lighter or darker in color. I also do so because some people who are, methinks, rather well skilled at identifying people who are traditionally deemed "African" in terms of appearance have readily identified my maternal grandmother as, to use the common term, "a black woman," although one of rather light colored skin. Therefore, to the extent that "black people" are, from a social standpoint, proper objects of hatred, I am no less a proper object of hatred. Likewise LGBTQ people are deemed by some to be proper objects of hatred. My problem thus is, I object to hatred?

    There is a path which I have so far apparently been able to travel, one in which I neither hide, nor arouse such hatred as to have been murdered. As best I am able, I plan to continue traveling that path.

    Titration works for controlling acid-base reactions when done properly. It can be challenging to titrate how much to hide and how much to not hide in terms of society's purported values and LGBTQ personal validity.

    Why would anyone seek to hide effects of hormone changes? To stay alive makes sense to me.

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