Mitt Romney's VP Choice

[Slammr]

Ah Ha ha haha ha ha haHA ha ha. Ohmygod I can't breathe. Ah ha ha. Okay. I'm all right now. (giggle) I swear I'm fine.

Did anyone else see Mitt Romney introduce Paul Ryan?

Mitt Romney: "Join me, in welcoming the next President of the United States, Paul Ryan!" ( Not Vice-President... Oh, no. PRESIDENT)

I'm starting to think even Mitt knows he doesn't have a chance. That or he really doesn't want the job.

Look for yourself, and try to avoid face palming yourself too hard.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pMQw6fsF_ts

Mitt Romney's career =

Paul Ryan, the next President of the United States: now, that is a scary thought.

The funny thing is that Romney didn't catch it and correct it right away. I'm sure, someone poked him in the ribs and told him about his mistake. He had to come back to correct it.

[A-1]

romney made a excellent choice in ryan...all the discussion now will be about his vp and economics and spending cuts and taxes

not about romneys returns and romney killing little old ladies that smoked like a chimney dying of lung cancer

i dont have to worry about the election

oregon is already decided and i have not seen a political ad on tv yet...i like that

i have changed my mind and decided to vote ...moi convinced me to vote for his candidate

Who? .... Ron Paul???!??

[sduyck_2000]

i agree with you ...i dont think romney wants the job

if i was him i would not want to deal with this mess...its beyond any man...he would just be a scapegoat

the only thing obama can do if reelected is dole out more money to the unemployed and the poor to make their lives a little better

i felt the same about mccain last time around as well

Ah Ha ha haha ha ha haHA ha ha. Ohmygod I can't breathe. Ah ha ha. Okay. I'm all right now. (giggle) I swear I'm fine.

Did anyone else see Mitt Romney introduce Paul Ryan?

Mitt Romney: "Join me, in welcoming the next President of the United States, Paul Ryan!" ( Not Vice-President... Oh, no. PRESIDENT)

I'm starting to think even Mitt knows he doesn't have a chance. That or he really doesn't want the job.

Look for yourself, and try to avoid face palming yourself too hard.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pMQw6fsF_ts

Mitt Romney's career =

[janekane]

I seem to recall an observation made by a neurologist more than 50 years ago, that went something like this:

"Everyone is, or seems to be, a dual personality with a divided will."

Supposing that the neurologist, Abraham A. Low, M.D., who was, as I recall, at one time, the Illinois Assistant Alienist, was accurate regarding the personality structure and the resulting structure of willful action, would that tend to explain why some folks who strive for recognition are so adept at destroying their social persona with people who are not particularly dual nor of divided will?

What are Freudian slips? Why are they so common among the narcissistically vain (Not to represent that anyone who seeks political office is ever vain or narcissistic, of course.)

Is actual truthfulness what always eventually prevails, even if takes going well past the far side of an infinitude of eternities for that to occur?

Wow! Do I ever hope that the multiverse is real!

This hear won don't done be looking two good fur now.

I make mistakes; I hope I am mistaken about the prior sentence; it begins to read like an iffy death sentence for humanity as I read, and re-read it.

Or, Mitt Romney is clairvoyant. If elected, he is predicting that he will be met by a form of sudden, adult, natura, unpreventable death prior to taking the oath of office? I would never want that to happen, I think he would make a good neighbor.

Of course, I regard the whole solar system as my neighborhood.

As a neighbor, I wish that Mitt Romney be blessed.

Like in Fiddler on the Roof?

"May God bless and keep the Czar... far away from us!"

As much as I wish no harm to befall Mitt Romney or Paul Ryan, I also wish them to not act in ways that harm me or others through their sincerely dual personalities (if they are dual) or their sincerely divided wills (if their wills are divided).

[Riverwind]

Ah Ha ha haha ha ha haHA ha ha. Ohmygod I can't breathe. Ah ha ha. Okay. I'm all right now. (giggle) I swear I'm fine.

Did anyone else see Mitt Romney introduce Paul Ryan?

Mitt Romney: "Join me, in welcoming the next President of the United States, Paul Ryan!" ( Not Vice-President... Oh, no. PRESIDENT)

I'm starting to think even Mitt knows he doesn't have a chance. That or he really doesn't want the job.

Look for yourself, and try to avoid face palming yourself too hard.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pMQw6fsF_ts

Mitt Romney's career =

OMG, now that's a scary thought, Ryan the next president of the United States, the Democrats better work on getting a grate candidate for 2016, as Mitt the Twit did it again, let his mouth run before he engaged his brain. Not someone I want as a president.

River

[moi621]

Romney made a excellent choice in ryan...all the discussion now will be about his vp and economics and spending cuts and taxes

not about romneys returns and romney killing little old ladies that smoked like a chimney dying of lung cancer

I dont have to worry about the election

Oregon is already decided and i have not seen a political ad on tv yet...i like that

I have changed my mind and decided to vote ...moi convinced me to vote for his candidate

You mean the No ObamNey Ticket?
Gary Johnson as an investment in 2016.

sduyck as a hard working independent farmer
has different interests then us suburbanites.
I feel so bad for the farmers, I watered extra heavy today. Each valve, twice
Imported water of course.

What will Obama give sduyck? More gasket dissolving fuels?
And of course Romney will just give breaks to the guy who middle man's sduyck's harvest.
Some choice.

Moi
No ObamNey 2012 for the farmer

[bobover3]

What's interesting about Ryan is that he's motivated by ideas more than by ideology or partisan loyalties. He's based his career on a set of forcefully articulated ideas. To the extent the VP pick counts at all (will any Obama supporters vote for him because of Joe Biden?), this makes the election more a contest of ideas than factions. That's what it should be.

Romney has been suspect among Republicans for perhaps delivering a mixed message. Ryan is a conservative's conservative who speaks clearly and without apology. Even liberals should welcome Ryan's candidacy as an opportunity to face conservatism head on.

Ryan lays an implicit demand on liberals to be equally clear about their beliefs, something they've been unwilling to do. Liberals know their ideas are unpopular, so they soften and evade. That's how Obama won in 2008. The VP debate will be entertaining, if widely ignored.

[devi]

Please elaborate:

What's interesting about Ryan is that he's motivated by ideas more than by ideology or partisan loyalties.

Ryan lays an implicit demand on liberals to be equally clear about their beliefs, something they've been unwilling to do. Liberals know their ideas are unpopular, so they soften and evade. That's how Obama won in 2008. The VP debate will be entertaining, if widely ignored.

Also I'm not sure if you could count President Obama as a liberal at all.

[Riverwind]

What's interesting about Ryan is that he's motivated by ideas more than by ideology or partisan loyalties. He's based his career on a set of forcefully articulated ideas. To the extent the VP pick counts at all (will any Obama supporters vote for him because of Joe Biden?), this makes the election more a contest of ideas than factions. That's what it should be.

Romney has been suspect among Republicans for perhaps delivering a mixed message. Ryan is a conservative's conservative who speaks clearly and without apology. Even liberals should welcome Ryan's candidacy as an opportunity to face conservatism head on.

Ryan lays an implicit demand on liberals to be equally clear about their beliefs, something they've been unwilling to do. Liberals know their ideas are unpopular, so they soften and evade. That's how Obama won in 2008. The VP debate will be entertaining, if widely ignored.

First welcome back,

I agree with you up until the last, Liberals know their ideas are right and popular with the left, they are not popular with the right, the same can be said of the far right.

Obama won in 2008 because he had the better message and did not make dumb statements like the economy is sound two days before it tanked.

I am with you, the VP debate will be widely ignored, president debates, Mitt should stay away from them if at all possible, he keeps proving time and time again he does not do well when subject to direct questions. Best if he keeps to prepared statements.


Again welcome back.

River

[Dave]

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Ryan lays an implicit demand on liberals to be equally clear about their beliefs, something they've been unwilling to do.
...snip

I"ve said before that I had to be Lead Auditor for one of the large initiatives (think Quality Management type initiative) the agency I worked at.
One thing I learned was that you couldn't demand that certain people be clear about their beliefs. I had to deal with several hard-case types. Researchers who followed a rule in their life. Men who drank regularly and beat people up in the bars. Guys who had lockers filled with porn like lending libraries and sat making lascivious remarks about every woman they saw. I had an equal number of angels who just did things perfectly and behaved so don't pity me.
However, I had to teach some of the worst how to audit other people. one of the points that succeeded best for both the auditor and the subject was not to demand they believe in the effort but to ask that they merely use the words. So I would sit down and say "when you prepare a list of experiments, call it this" or "when you follow the law on disposal of waste chemicals call it this particular word or phrase that fulfilled the directive. OR in that same vein, we asked that they keep a minimum amount of certain chemicals in the lab and at the handling (Storage) facility.
No I throw bombs and chuck shit with the best (As we all can attest) but this was what I asked them not to do.
The first set of directives that I did in 1992/3 lasted five years and by the end of three had 100% compliance for the last two. Sure about 20% didn't believe it or care about it but since I was in control of the audits, I kept the bosses away from the researchers and workers and never demanded that the researchers or workers "believe" ... It's the old saw, you can lead a horse to water but you can't make it drink... You really can't get someone to do something they don't want to do. Prisons are full because of that.

When you say "Ryan lays an implicit demand on Liberals" well, there's no requirement that anyone do anything. In fact, sadly, most politicians IMO have no coherent and thought out set of beliefs. Many do, but most in congress are just treading water and marking time after they discover what the real job is...
So unfortunately and I would be willing to place money on it, there will be no great "come to meeting" display of beliefs beyond the party platforms that come out of the conventions.

[bobover3]

Thanks, River. That's all I have the energy for now.

Dave, you may be right about no display of beliefs beyond the party platforms. Too bad for the country.

[Mac]

Thanks, River. That's all I have the energy for now.

Dave, you may be right about no display of beliefs beyond the party platforms. Too bad for the country.

Welcome back!

[A-1]

Thanks, River. That's all I have the energy for now.

Dave, you may be right about no display of beliefs beyond the party platforms. Too bad for the country.

Don't over-do Bob/3.

We want YOU here for a long, long time.

As I have stated, and as we have recently seen, and moi will testify to this, and if moi and I agree on something it HAS to be true, there will NEVER be another YOU on this board, and nobody, but nobody, does it better than you do.

Take care, my friend, and be well!

P.S. Why'd you have to be so good?

[moi621]

Just read,

The Choice of Ryan has bumped Romney's poll numbers
more then the choices of Biden or Palin did for their respective presidential candidates.

Thus far, not a bad choice.
I do not understand why "the press" tries to exploit historical differences.
They are not carbon, excuse me - xerox, copies of one another. An absurd expectation by the press.

Moi

Some don't care ( )0( )
I am still, No ObamNey, Vote for Gary Johnson to make an "Occupy" sound.
I can be swayed but, honestly I see it like the Red Team and the Blue Team with loyal followers.
I just see both teams playing "the same game". An it isn't suppose to be that way.
Convince me otherwise. Here
http://www.eunuch.org/forums/showthr...936#post214936

[Dave]

>>Here is a summary of all the good things that Ryan brings to the republican ticket for president.
>>The graph of election results loads slow for some reason, be patient.
>>

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/0...he-Ryan-record
>>Please Note that this graph of all polls lacks the daily tracking polls because both Rasmussen and Gallup have weird internal math that doesn't match any other poll in the USA.
>>

A summary:
Sat Aug 18, 2012 at 04:20 AM PDT
Abbreviated Pundit Round-up: Looking under the hood of the Ryan record
by DemFromCT.

Jamelle Bouie:
Ignoring, for a moment, the fact that Ryan doesn’t actually offer solutions to mass unemployment or budget sustainability, it’s worth focusing on the obvious: It’s never a good thing when your vice presidential pick makes it more likely you’ll lose.

Amy Goldstein:
“It can’t possibly hurt to have the vice president of the United States come from Janesville,” said state Sen. Tim Cullen, a moderate Democrat and long-respected local figure who has worked extensively with Ryan and likes him. But of Ryan’s pure faith in the private sector to meet social needs, Cullen said that in a town like Janesville, “it’s a mismatch.”
...

David Firestone:
Among the many falsehoods in the Romney campaign’s new Medicare ad is this remarkable line pitched to the elderly: “The money you paid in for guaranteed health care is going into a massive new government program that’s not for you.”
Those three words “not for you,” encapsulate the Republican Party’s approach to that “massive” program, the Affordable Care Act, as a wedge issue. It’s not enough to say that President Obama took $716 billion out of Medicare, because Paul Ryan’s budget did the same thing. The point is that those billions are being spent on the wrong people, those unnamed others who inevitably lurk just outside of Republican ads.

Charles Blow:
If the repulsive strategy Mitt Romney and Paul Ryan are using doesn’t motivate some voters who had been considering sitting out this election, nothing will.

Gail Collins:
Ryan is the one who spent his youth cooking hamburgers at McDonald’s. Romney is the one who used to enjoy dressing up as a police officer and playing fun pranks on his prep school friends. Neither one of them worked as a Wienermobile driver. Really, I don’t know where you get this stuff.
Ryan is the one who likes to catch catfish by sticking his fist into their burrows and dragging them out by the throat. Romney is the one who drove to Canada with his dog strapped to the car roof.