The Wisdom of the Conservatives...and a question...

[Riverwind]

Sorry you are wrong, copper will tarnish, gold never will in that lies the difference. Gold is the only metal that will not tarnish and because of that one fact it make a better connection with electronic gear then copper or any other kind of metal.

So its not a gimmick, it is used widely in the making of mother boards and other pieces of computer gear today and has been used for that going all the way back to the days of wired computers before the Integrated Circuit Boards. Copper tarnishes, gold does not, not a gimmick but the smart way of doing things, in some cases the only way.

Look it up, 2ed age computers and how they were made. We are in the 3rd age. Look up how one bite was made with wire and what they used for that wire. That's right, GOLD.

The following was taken from a discription of the IBM 1401 (1959 through 1971)

These circuits were constructed of discrete components (resistors, capacitors, transistors) mounted on single sided paper-epoxy printed circuit boards either 2.5 by 4.5 inches (63 by 110 mm) with a 16-pin gold plated edge connector (single wide) or 5.375 by 4.5 inches (136.5 by 110 mm) with two 16-pin gold plated edge connectors (double wide), that IBM referred to as SMS cards (Standard Modular System). The amount of logic on one card was similar to that in one 7400 series SSI or simpler MSI package (e.g., 3 to 5 logic gates or a couple of flip-flops on a single wide card up to about 20 logic gates or 4 flip-flops on a double wide card).



River

[Elizabeth]

Sorry you are wrong, copper will tarnish, gold never will in that lies the difference. Gold is the only metal that will not tarnish and because of that one fact it make a better connection with electronic gear then copper or any other kind of metal.

So its not a gimmick, it is used widely in the making of mother boards and other pieces of computer gear today and has been used for that going all the way back to the days of wired computers before the Integrated Circuit Boards. Copper tarnishes, gold does not, not a gimmick but the smart way of doing things, in some cases the only way.

Look it up, 2ed age computers and how they were made. We are in the 3rd age. Look up how one bite was made with wire and what they used for that wire. That's right, GOLD.

The following was taken from a discription of the IBM 1401 (1959 through 1971)

These circuits were constructed of discrete components (resistors, capacitors, transistors) mounted on single sided paper-epoxy printed circuit boards either 2.5 by 4.5 inches (63 by 110 mm) with a 16-pin gold plated edge connector (single wide) or 5.375 by 4.5 inches (136.5 by 110 mm) with two 16-pin gold plated edge connectors (double wide), that IBM referred to as SMS cards (Standard Modular System). The amount of logic on one card was similar to that in one 7400 series SSI or simpler MSI package (e.g., 3 to 5 logic gates or a couple of flip-flops on a single wide card up to about 20 logic gates or 4 flip-flops on a double wide card).



River

Or I could buy the cheaper copper ones and put $.0000005 worth of deox on it and it will never corrode either. As I stated in my earlier post, I was not disputing that copper tarnishes. I was saying that it's negligible as to how the equipment works. No one could ever hear the difference, but people bought the gold not because it does not tarnish, but because they thought it made their equipment work better. It might make a difference on a circuit board, but not on the cables between tv equipment and stereo's.

So again, the reason it's a gimmick is because people did not buy them because they don't tarnish. Most people believe they are a better conductor and that is why they bought them. Since that is not true, it's a gimmick.

Elizabeth

[janekane]

I worked at Uravan once! Had an old Renault and the starter went out. I could only use it to go from the bunkhouse (on a hill) to the 3.2 bar in Naturita (on a lond downhill street). I took the family by a couples of years ago and it was only a historical marker on the highway. Interesting feeling to see part of your formative years reduced to a highway sign. But such is life.

Is Herguth's Law true? "If its any good, they will stop making it."?

Not all Renaults needed a starter. The lug wrench for a Dauphine was also the crank, and the engine was very easy to hand-crank to start it.

[Arab Nights]

But then I could have gone somewhere other than the 3.2 bar. That simply would not have done. Not when I was 18 and in Colorado.

[sag111]

Sorry guys I have all the gold and you can see some of it in my pan so there.

[Riverwind]

Sorry guys I have all the gold and you can see some of it in my pan so there.

Best argument on this thread,


SAG WINS.



River

[A-1]

Sorry guys I have all the gold and you can see some of it in my pan so there.

sag111

Would YOU like to star in Leprechaun 12 ... "Thar's GOLD in Them There Hills"? Sound like a decent prospect?

[spadones]

<Not all Renaults needed a starter. The lug wrench for a Dauphine was also the crank, and the engine was very easy to hand-crank to start it>

My '67 Sunbeam Alpine came with a hand crank. I started it occasionally that way. But, then, I've started air-cooled VW's by wrapping a leather belt around the generator pully. Works every time.

Spadones

[transward]

Is Herguth's Law true? "If its any good, they will stop making it."?

Not all Renaults needed a starter. The lug wrench for a Dauphine was also the crank, and the engine was very easy to hand-crank to start it.

I remember when Renault tried to introduce the successor to the Dauphine, the LeCar, they ran ads apologizing for the dismal quality of the Dauphine.

In 1967, in debut U.S. magazine advertising for the Dauphine's successor, Renault said: "Our [earlier] cars were not fully prepared to meet the demands of America... More than a fair share of things went wrong with our cars. Less than a fair share of our dealers were equipped to deal with what went wrong," describing the Dauphine's replacement as "The Renault for people who swore they would never buy another one."[12]

In a 2000 survey Car Talk named the Dauphine the 9th Worst Car Of The Millennium, calling it "truly unencumbered by the engineering process"[35] — albeit in a survey where Tom Magliozzi called the voters "a self-selecting bunch of wackos, most of whom are really aggravated by a bad experience with one of the cars".[36]

In 2007, Time with Pulizter Prize-winning journalist Dan Neil named the Dauphine one of the 50 Worst Cars of All Time, calling it "the most ineffective bit of French engineering since the Maginot Line" and saying that it could actually be heard rusting.[14]

Transward

[Prudence]

<Not all Renaults needed a starter. The lug wrench for a Dauphine was also the crank, and the engine was very easy to hand-crank to start it>

My '67 Sunbeam Alpine came with a hand crank. I started it occasionally that way. But, then, I've started air-cooled VW's by wrapping a leather belt around the generator pully. Works every time.

Spadones

That's a rather fascinating perspective on the Gold Standard...

[A-1]

So far nobody has offered me an answer to my question.



The Next question might be, "Why do we watch shitty Propaganda Channels pimping themselves as NEWS, then?"

When I was a child watching the Beverly Hillbillies I remember Jed Clampett getting mad at Mr. Drysdale and going into his bank and telling him that he was moving back home that that he was taking his money with him. He also said that he did not want any of that paper money, that he wanted his 35 million in REAL money, nickles, dimes and quarters...

We ALL laughed our asses off at the IGNORANCE of Jed Clampett.

Now, when we go on Fox News, they have a lame-brain suggest that we go back to the REAL money, the Gold standard. They all fail to see the IGNORANCE of this fool, requesting all of his assets in Gold. In fact, they seem to side with the BRILLIANCE of this idea...

Then we have this array of the semi-intelligent Conservatives actually proposing to do this with a straight face.

Why aren't we laughing at Fox News as hard as we laughed at Jed Clampett?

I am SERIOUS, these BASTARDS are anarchists and they should be BANNED from BROADCASTING.

How much longer must we tolerate these silly bastards crying fire in a crowded theater?

[Dave]

But then I would have to watch Judge Judy, Jerry Springer, Judge Alex, Dr Drew, Mary Povich and all those cooking shows.
Not to mention Let's Make a Deal and game shows...

[A-1]

But then I would have to watch Judge Judy, Jerry Springer, Judge Alex, Dr Drew, Mary Povich and all those cooking shows.
Not to mention Let's Make a Deal and game shows...

Yes, I suppose that you would. But consider it this way. These others that you mentioned are pretty harmless unless you in a room with them. The others can fuck you without being with you... and you WILL NOT GET KISSED, EITHER...!

[Dave]

Yes, I suppose that you would. But consider it this way. These others that you mentioned are pretty harmless unless you in a room with them. The others can fuck you without being with you... and you WILL NOT GET KISSED, EITHER...!

I have no clue what that means. Please do NOT explain it.

[Riverwind]

But then I would have to watch Judge Judy, Jerry Springer, Judge Alex, Dr Drew, Mary Povich and all those cooking shows.
Not to mention Let's Make a Deal and game shows...

Now wait a minute, the cooking shows are the only good thing on the TV. Bon appétit!


River