Is it TIME to save the GOP?

[Riverwind]

No I think you missed it Moi, even some republicans have said this is a great idea but Romney still hates to take a stand, any stand on any issue at any time. He is the Teflon politician nothing sticks to him, either that or a duck, as in every day is a brand new day. I would love to hear him take a stand, a table, a chair, anything but his promises are golden he promises things will get better if he is elected, what he is going to do? your guess is as good as mine.

The president did the right thing for the right reasons, not to throw out the point that he just picked up the Latino vote.


River

[Dave]

Romney was acting like he was KING OF THE WORLD and the had bested the President.
Then the President used his Presidential powers and "poooooooooooof" went Romney's balloon. A complete wipeout.

No one will talk about Romney's bus tour this weekend. They will talk about the President's actions. The President takes the lead position on this so if Marco Rubio comes out with any plan, he will be second, saying "me too." Romney will be in the "me too" position also.

Advantage Obama for the entire week.

[moi621]

What of the point

He did not do it three years ago? Eh?

[Dave]

What of the point

He did not do it three years ago? Eh?

Well I didn't shit on Thursdays three years ago. I kept records and I checked the frequency of Dave's shits. I did it Wednesdays and Fridays. It was more convenient.
(NOT FOR MOI'S EYES: I keep records because I so allergic to foods, I need to know which food does the bad deed this time. Then I have to stop eating it. My Tummy hates food, well, at least most food, the good stuff...)

So MOI, what other point do you want to make...

[moi621]

He did not do it so "executively" three years ago.

Moi
Got Leadership?
I mean before it is politically . . .

[moi621]

More on topicalnessly

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/r...203740749.html
Romney: Obama immigration policy change will be an impediment to permanent citizenship
"Mitt Romney said he believes President Obama's decision to allow as many as 800,000 young illegal immigrants to apply for work permits and temporary legal status will ultimately make it harder for immigrants to gain permanent citizenship. . ."

See, he cares so.


Moi

[A-1]

More on topicalnessly

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/r...203740749.html
Romney: Obama immigration policy change will be an impediment to permanent citizenship
"Mitt Romney said he believes President Obama's decision to allow as many as 800,000 young illegal immigrants to apply for work permits and temporary legal status will ultimately make it harder for immigrants to gain permanent citizenship. . ."

See, he cares so.


Moi

moi. I do not believe that you cannot see through this...

I didn't want those grapes anyway. They are probably sour.

Aesop's Fables for Children

Sour Grapes

An Aesop Fable

A very hungry fox walked into a vineyard where there was an ample supply of luscious looking grapes. Grapes had never looked so good, and the fox was famished. However, the grapes hung higher than the fox could reach. He jumped and stretched and hopped and reached and jumped some more trying to get those yummy grapes, but to no avail. No matter what he tried, he could not reach the grapes. He wore himself out jumping and jumping to get the grapes.

"Those grapes surely must be sour," he said as he walked away, "I wouldn't eat them if they were served to me on a silver platter."

It is easy to hate what you cannot have.

[Riverwind]

No moi, you got it wrong,

The president was right when he said democrats and republicans don't want to deal with the immigration issue, he has tried for three years to get them both houses of congress to address the problem and nothing, so he did what presidents do, he issued an executive order.

Romney is wrong again as usual, if anything this will make it much easier for these people to become citizens if they so wish. Like I said before, Romney does not have any plan for anything, on any issue, none. So far the only thing I can see him doing that is or could be considered good, is that he is good at criticizing the president, with NO solution of his own on any issue, NONE. He is the zero percent solution.

I just thought of something, he has given a solution on an issue, I forgot, he said if he were president he would have one aircraft carrier off the coast of Israel and one off Iran, er Mr. Romney, the USA has had an aircraft carrier off the coast of Israel sense the 6 day war and off the coast of Iran sense 1979. BUT the sound bites sounded good until you stop to realize he knows nothing about what he is talking about.

NOTE, the USA has 10 aircraft carriers, there are only 22 or so in the world, none come up to half the size of any one of our, and no country has more then 3 that would be the UK. Each aircraft carrier is in a battle group made up of several other ships, including destroyers, cruisers, subs, supply ships about 25 to 30 in each group. I wonder (using moi as a reference point) if Romney has any idea how many ships we have in our Navy?


River

[A-1]

No moi, you got it wrong,

The president was right when he said democrats and republicans don't want to deal with the immigration issue, he has tried for three years to get them both houses of congress to address the problem and nothing, so he did what presidents do, he issued an executive order.

Yes, they are all so GUTLESS, it staggers the imagination what they are spending on that fence allegedly to protect the USA from drugs coming from Mexico, but that they cannot do anything to support people who are here trying to live in peace and make something of themselves.

Romney is wrong again as usual, if anything this will make it much easier for these people to become citizens if they so wish. Like I said before, Romney does not have any plan for anything, on any issue, none. So far the only thing I can see him doing that is or could be considered good, is that he is good at criticizing the president, with NO solution of his own on any issue, NONE. He is the zero percent solution.

That's starting to follow a pattern, isn't it? I wonder where he learned to do all of that BACKBITING?

I just thought of something, he has given a solution on an issue, I forgot, he said if he were president he would have one aircraft carrier off the coast of Israel and one off Iran, er Mr. Romney, the USA has had an aircraft carrier off the coast of Israel sense the 6 day war and off the coast of Iran sense 1979. BUT the sound bites sounded good until you stop to realize he knows nothing about what he is talking about.

That just tells use either he has NOT been briefed about the U.S.A. military OR, that he was briefed and chose NOT TO PAY ANY ATTENTION. Either way makes one wonder if he honestly would be worth a damn as commander-in-chief. At least Obama has learned very quickly the value of the military and is taking strides to get them out of harm's way in Afghanistan like he did when he withdrew the U.S. from Iraq.

You know, it amazed me when McCain declared that we'd be in Iraq for 100 years if necessary. That's when I knew that his neurological system was crystallized.

NOTE, the USA has 10 aircraft carriers, there are only 22 or so in the world, none come up to half the size of any one of our, and no country has more then 3 that would be the UK. Each aircraft carrier is in a battle group made up of several other ships, including destroyers, cruisers, subs, supply ships about 25 to 30 in each group. I wonder (using moi as a reference point) if Romney has any idea how many ships we have in our Navy?

River

That just tells use either he has NOT been briefed about the U.S.A. military OR, that he was briefed and chose NOT TO PAY ANY ATTENTION. It looks to me like he would establish contact with somebody like Colin Powell, but General Powell has been BURNED by the Republicans so many times that he probably would NOT give one the time of day, let alone advice about the military.

SO there is another problem with Mitt Romney. HE has NO IDEA what is in the military, let alone how to handle them. This UNDERSCORES his IGNORANCE regarding foreign policy. He tends to pander to the FUNDAMENTALIST CHRISTIAN faction of the Republican Party and around them he treads like a flatfoot through a mine field. Just look at the POST BELOW...

Mitt Romney attacks president’s positions on Israel, Iran

By Paul West and Michael Finnegan / Tribune Washington Bureau
Sunday, June 17, 2012 - Added 2 hours ago

CORNWALL, Pa. — In hawkish remarks that drew cheers from an audience of religious conservatives, Mitt Romney accused President Barack Obama on Saturday of being more afraid of Israel attacking Iran than of Iran developing a nuclear weapon.

The Republican presidential candidate, who frequently attacks the administration for failing to back Israel’s government more aggressively, escalated his criticism a notch. He responded with ridicule when asked what he would do, if elected, to strengthen U.S. relations with the Jewish state.

“I think, by and large, you can just look at the things the president has done and do the opposite,” Romney said, to laughter and applause from members of the Faith and Freedom Coalition, an evangelical Christian political organization.

“You look at his policies with regards to Iran,” Romney continued. “He’s almost sounded like he’s more frightened that Israel might take military action than he’s concerned that Iran might become nuclear.”

Those words prompted prolonged applause from an audience of 250 in the ballroom of a Washington hotel. Romney addressed the group via video hookup from Pennsylvania during the second day of a six-state swing.

Ralph Reed, director of the Faith and Freedom Coalition, took the stage shortly before Romney spoke. His group is attempting to turn out millions of evangelical Christians this fall by making what they describe as the administration’s “war on religion” a central organizing theme.

In his remarks, which avoided social issues like gay marriage and abortion that are dear to many Christian conservatives, Romney echoed the rallying call.

“The decision by the Obama administration to attack our first freedom, religious freedom, is one which I think a lot of people were shocked to see,” said the former Massachusetts governor, referring to a since-modified requirement that employers, including those connected to religious organizations like the Catholic Church, provide contraceptive coverage under the new health care law.

Romney spent the rest of the day campaigning in central Pennsylvania on a tour of small towns in battleground states. In Weatherly, Romney visited a durable goods factory. He planned to stop at a Wawa gas station and convenience store in Quakertown but scratched the event when protesters and former Pennsylvania Gov. Ed Rendell showed up to denounce his economic plans.

Romney also campaigned at a historic foundry in Cornwall, where he told a crowd that a sandwich he bought at another Wawa gas station demonstrated the vibrancy of the private sector.

“You press a little touch-tone keypad,” he said. “You touch that ... touch this, touch this, touch this, go pay the cashier. There’s your sandwich. It’s amazing. People in the private sector learn how to compete.”

Meanwhile, the candidate’s wife, Ann Romney, learned that her dressage horse Rafalca and rider Jan Ebeling had earned a place on the U.S. Olympic Equestrian Team.

I hate to sound like a poor man but WHAT IN THE HELL IS A "dressage horse"?

“It’s great to be part of the Olympics again,” Ann Romney tweeted Saturday. “We are so proud of Jan and Team USA. Now let’s bring home the gold!”
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(West of the Tribune Washington Bureau reported from Washington and Finnegan of the Los Angeles Times from Cornwall. Times staff writer Robin Arcadian contributed.)

Romney recently REFUSED to meet with a Veteran's group, Rolling Thunder, probably because he was frightened of the name of the group. Read Below

Letter: Vets should shun Romney

Posted June 15, 2012 at 6:35 p.m.

Randy Reneau, Corryton

Mitt Romney turned down a request to meet the group Rolling Thunder in Washington, D.C. Is he a person that veterans want to lead this country?

Romney has criticized the president's call for billions in cuts from the defense budget and accused him of negotiating with the Taliban and apologizing in the Middle East and elsewhere around the world. But isn't it time to stop fighting wars? For a man that has not been on the field of battle, why is he wanting to start a war with Iran?

I was drafted and fought in Vietnam. Ask Mitt Romney why he did not. Is he better than me, and my dead buddies who died early in their lives? I ask you, why did he protest for the war, and then would not fight in it?

Romney who claims to be a hawk, chickened out when his turn came up. He said in 2007 when he first ran for president that he "longed in many respects to actually be in Vietnam."

So laugh at how these elitist types love to invade countries to spread Democracy, yet have little skin in the game. Romney never served. Clearly, military service was beneath him since his time was better served destroying companies and sending jobs overseas.

Really, do we veterans want a man who wants to start wars, but has no idea what war is about? When I have my nightmares from Vietnam, do people like Romney or the president care? I don't think so.

Either Mitt Romney IS STUPID, is FLIP-FLOPPING in advance or he simply DOES NOT GIVE A DAMN...


Either way the whole damned Republican Party over this WAR SHIT is simply NOT WORTH A DAMN let alone worth saving...

[Riverwind]

Look at history, of all the wars that man has been in most have been over religion, the next big war will be about religion, the Christian RIGHT, those fundamentalist who know their way is the only way will start a war against those Muslims, those fundamentalist who know their way is the only way and will start a war against the Jews who is the mother of both religions.

Go figure.

Why don't we ban religion or at least three of them from the world, what a wonderful place this would be.



River

[Cainanite]

He did not do it so "executively" three years ago.

Moi
Got Leadership?
I mean before it is politically . . .

Sorry to be so late in responding to this one, but it needs responding to.

Moi, my dear friend, are you telling me you are mad at a politician for using a political issue, and making a political decision, to gain political points?

I hate to break this to you, but Obama is a POLITICIAN. He's not Jesus (or Buddha, or Krishna, or Mother Teresa, or any of the Saints.)

Are you really surprised that a politician is playing politics? Really?

All political decisions are made for political reasons. What country do you live in? Are you new to democracy?

What Obama is doing is extremely smart. He is playing the most intelligent game of politics he can, for exactly the right reasons. He has been waiting for the perfect moments to make the decisions. He waits until it will benefit everyone on his side. Sure, he could have done it three years ago. He could have done everything he promised three years ago, then sat around doing nothing, while the Right built up huge momentum of criticisms against him.

Obama is making the correct decisions, but timing them to undermine the right wing. He is keeping them from building momentum. He needs to do this if he wants a chance at winning in November, and coming back to fix Healthcare once and for all. He needs to have support, and a second term if he wants to finally enact legislation that will allow him to take on Wall Street. He needs a second term to make Marriage Equality a reality. Maybe if fortunes change after the next election, he can finally close Guantanamo Prison like he tried earlier.

If he blows his load too early, he sacrifices his future chances at making needed changes in other areas. This is how the game of politics is played. He makes his move when it is politically expedient to do so, not before.

He has timed his decisions and announcements perfectly. All the republicans can do, coming into an election, is focus on Obama, and scream, "No, no, no!" They are constantly reacting to the president, and are unable to present any arguments for what the USA would look like if they were in power.

Obama is aware of the Etch-a-Sketch mentality of the 24 hour news cycle, and the short term memory of voters. He has saved himself for when it matters. People will remember his decisions when they walk into the voting booth. All people will remember about the republicans, is that they offered no vision for the future, and were always on the negative side of every important issue. That is smart politics for the 21st Century.

Obama is a true politician. He knows the political game, and how to win. He is also making the right choices, not just the easy ones. He's not out there with a "No Child Left Behind" sound-bite platform. He's out there with real, meaningful changes that people can see the benefit of. Politicians like Obama are good for countries. They are good for keeping a country moving into the future.

The GOP has no true politicians left, and Obama knows it. All the true politicians were routed when the Tea Party came in. All they do is scream, "No, no, no!" They stamp their feet, and plug their ears when real work needs to be done. They are not politicians, they are children. All they can do, is drag the country down in an orgy of inaction.

Romney is the perfect example of this. He has yet to build a platform to run on. All he has, is to be Obama's negative. How he has the support he has, with no real vision for the future, I don't know.

They are like dogs chasing cars. They wouldn't know what to do with one if they caught it. Likewise, the republicans wouldn't know what to do with the presidency should they win it.

Romney and the GOP may well win at advertising, and steal the election, but Obama is winning politically. If anyone stops and looks at what he is doing, the choice is clear.

It makes me laugh that the republicans are complaining that Obama is playing politics. The real question should be, why aren't they?

Answer; They don't know how.

[moi621]

Yes. Now just get the Obamaites to agree.
They believe it was just "the right time" regardless of the election calendar. Don'tchyaknow.

Moi

[nullorchis]

From my 6.5 decade viewpoint, the original GOP is long gone.
most multi-millionaires and billionaires are "Republican".
And they pay for false advertising that is intended to coerce the average blindsided person into voting "Republican".

To me Republican stands for Corporate America, not even for small business and definitely not for the individual.
It is almost like a religion; "Republicans" want to control everything, you, me, business, how we live, and don't live.

[A-1]

I WOULD make the comment FUCK THE REPUBLICANS! but it appears that venereal disease (from fucking around too much) has left them with many mental problems. I would not want anybody to get something from them that would hurt them, although we ALWAYS do that at election time whenever a REPUBLICAN gets elected.