California

[moi621]

There are no convenient California relevant threads without going to the graveyard.
So, introducing;
The 2012, "California" Thread serving everything and anything, California.

Today's California.
For all those Initiative critics. Guess who could not acquire enough signatures to qualify for the ballot?
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California State Dream Act opponents failed to qualify their initiative to repeal the California Dream Act. A law that gives any kid who graduates from a California High School, State resident access to State funded higher education regardless of Federal immigration status.
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lano...eal-fails.html
Usually 1 Million dollars buys you enough signatures from established signature gathering companies to get on the ballot. Y'think Californians refused to sign this one?

Moi
Progressive California, you have to cross a river border to get here from Arizona.

[Riverwind]

Because nobody cares.

River

[gareth19]

California State Dream Act opponents failed to qualify their initiative to repeal the California Dream Act. A law that gives any kid who graduates from a California High School, State resident access to State funded higher education regardless of Federal immigration status.
Usually 1 Million dollars buys you enough signatures from established signature gathering companies to get on the ballot. Y'think Californians refused to sign this one?

Moi
Progressive California, you have to cross a river border to get here from Arizona.

Because the last time Californians signed petitions, they 1) recalled a perfectly competent governor with a rational plan to tackle the deficit for a groping idiot whose principal objective was to make sure he wouldn't have to pay full registration fees on his eight Hummers and 2) they enacted Proposition Hate. Twice burned, once shy.

[curious_guy]

Because the last time Californians signed petitions, they 1) recalled a perfectly competent governor with a rational plan to tackle the deficit for a groping idiot whose principal objective was to make sure he wouldn't have to pay full registration fees on his eight Hummers and 2) they enacted Proposition Hate. Twice burned, once shy.

The deficit that Gray Davis had to tackle was mainly caused by the electricity deregulation scheme pushed through by Pete Wilson, his republican predecessor.

I think that maybe the voters are finally getting wise to the fact that while the republicans say that their plans will be good for everyone, they actually are only good for the rich, if they are good for anyone.

[A-1]

moi.

I will not post here again because I fear that if this thread gets too long that it will break off and sink in the Pacific Ocean and suck you down with it....








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Well, maybe I AM being a little too abrupt...











...Maybe I should PAY people for posting here....!!!







...River, should I take up a collection?

[moi621]

Sounds Paulist. Well he was a seminary student.

http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la...tory?track=rss
"January 20, 2012
Deviating sharply from education reform policies championed by President Obama, California Gov. Jerry Brown is calling for limits on standardized testing and reduced roles for federal and state government in local schools. . ."

[A-1]

Sounds Paulist. Well he was a seminary student...

I thought that he said that he didn't DO anything with that man in the hotel room. Now you are telling me that she studied... semin?

[Losethem]

Because the last time Californians signed petitions, they 1) recalled a perfectly competent governor with a rational plan to tackle the deficit for a groping idiot whose principal objective was to make sure he wouldn't have to pay full registration fees on his eight Hummers and 2) they enacted Proposition Hate. Twice burned, once shy.

I wouldn't say the last time. The initiative process in California is too easy, we have voter/group sponsored initiatives on the ballot out here all the time. It's ridiculous and one of the reasons California is ungovernable. If the governor or the legislature doesn't want to deal with a hot-button issue, they punt it to the voters and let mob-rule decide. Or put another way, they abdicate their authority to the voters to decide contentious issues.

You can't run a state by making the voters decide every issue. At that point you may as well just shut down the legislature, fire the governor and put up kiosks at the mall that people can come and freely vote on the issue of the day, which California is seemingly on one short step from doing.

I don't want to see the initiative process banned, but I would like to see it become much harder to put these things on the ballot so that the elected representative and the governor had to actually do their jobs.

--LT

[moi621]

I wouldn't say the last time. The initiative process in California is too easy, we have voter/group sponsored initiatives on the ballot out here all the time.
--LT

I thought so too. 1 million dollars would get some company to get you on the ballot.
Yet the "Repeal the California Dream Act" petition recently failed.
Something happening. Maybe people are less willing to sign today. Or actually judged this petition wrong.

The correction that may be sufficient is any spending must be accounted against revenues.
And of course placing Bonds back at a 2/3rds vote. Crazily it was reduced to a simple majority by a simple majority. Hardly seems fair or just.

Moi


BTW the part of California about 4-8 hours north of San Francisco is incredibly beautiful, under populated and lacking a University of California campus. Its' City Colleges and State College & University are among the best in the system.

[Riverwind]

Only in California, the only state in the union with a constitution that is longer then then state.

River

[moi621]

Not to forget California as
The New, Improved, Open Primary
with proportional delegate representation
may name the candidate before the convention.
Or have something to say about it. Usually Californians don't.
The game is usually over by the time the primary gets here.
Well read up on the circus that could place the next President of the United Corporations of America

http://www.fresnobee.com/2012/03/18/...hat-could.html
Primary debuts changes that could give voters fits
New top-two method gives voters choices.
California's June 5 primary will throw voters the biggest election curve they've seen since the 2003 gubernatorial recall saw 135 candidates clog the ballot.

In the upcoming election -- and from now on -- ballots for all state and federal offices except president will include every candidate, regardless of political party.

That means all voters will choose from Republican, Democrat and third-party candidates seeking a seat in Congress, U.S. Senate, state Senate and state Assembly. In 2014, state offices such as governor, insurance commissioner and treasurer will be part of the mix.

__________________________________________________ _______

No cross over to the GOP Presidential primary?

Moi
State of Confusornia anyone? I am. I think.

[sag111]

Who cares any more the government will do what it wants any way so who cares.This state is going bankrupt and no one can do any thing about it and now we have to give illegals free collage while our kids can not get a break.I give this state about 12 months before the people finally find out they have been a lying to them again go figure.

[Riverwind]

Oh yes, Sag the internal optimist,

[A-1]

Nicer resurrection of the moribund thread "California", moi.

Did you have to BLOW IN IT'S MOUTH, too?



Well, just be careful. I hear that CALIFORNIA sucks, real bad, and I wouldn't want anything bad to happen to you, like maybe you are getting SUCKED IN...

[moi621]

My State.
The Great State of California.
The Bear Flag Republic and the Golden Poppy

http://news.yahoo.com/california-sen...021741528.html
California Senate passes "anti-Arizona" immigration bill
SACRAMENTO (Reuters) - The California Senate passed a bill on Thursday that seeks to shield illegal immigrants from status checks by local police and challenges Republican-backed immigration crackdowns in Arizona and other U.S. states.
The Democrat-led state Senate voted 21 to 13 to approve the California Trust Act, dubbed by supporters as the "anti-Arizona" bill. It blocks local police from referring a detainee to immigration officials for deportation unless that person has been convicted of a violent or serious felony. . . . .
. . . . It has already passed the Democrat-controlled state Assembly in a 47-26 vote and will go back to the Assembly for a concurrence vote following the summer recess before heading to Democratic Governor Jerry Brown.


What has YOUR State or Province done lately.

Moi
California Proud