Dr. Ron Paul, 2012?

[A-1]

Bullshit...

Ron Paul couldn't beat his PECKER in a closet with both hands... let alone beat Obama in a Presidential election...

[moi621]

The GOP fear is Dr. Paul will minimally score a spot to address the Republican Convention.
And of course speaking to "the money", printing more money, and unconstitutional wars.
Historically, Progressives do not have to win to have effect.

Moi

BTW if "you" have nothing to say,
wouldn't it be nice if "you" didn't? Most politely.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ALaajR2Wcjk

[Dave]

I think (And this is my theory as I am a political junky and watch lots of things) I Think that Romney and ROn Paul have already made a deal about delegates for the convention. Romney ain't beating up on Ron Paul and neither is Ron Paul beating up on Romney.

Gingrich take every chance he gets to hit Romney.
Santorum is a direct competitor with Romney.

What if they get into June and July and there is no clear winner in the delegate count and suddenly, Ron Paul throws his delegates at Romney to prevent Santorum from winning or Gingrich from winning?
I would work on that now and not in June or July.

[A-1]

You could be on to something.

Maybe a ticket of Romney and vice President Ron Paul could conjure up enough support to defeat Obama...

Let us think about this for a bit...

[moi621]

But. Butt ( )0( )

Dr. Paul is the softest on "illegal immigrants".
Romney is the toughest.

We will have to hear more from Romney on all these unconstitutional wars Dr. Paul mentions.

I do not believe Dr. Paul would sell out and kiss up ala Hubert and LBJ.
How far can Romney reassess to gain Dr. Paul's support? (Answer: All the way )

Moi

[gareth19]

But. Butt ( )0( )

Dr. Paul is the softest on "illegal immigrants".
Romney is the toughest.

We will have to hear more from Romney on all these unconstitutional wars Dr. Paul mentions.

I do not believe Dr. Paul would sell out and kiss up ala Hubert and LBJ.
How far can Romney reassess to gain Dr. Paul's support? (Answer: All the way )

Moi

Ron Paul could very well be the Sarah Palin of 2012, the veep choice that is so appalling that it drives marginal supporters away with the thought that that senile moron is one heart-beat away from the presidency. But yes, Romney could very well be working that angle right now, and for Ron Paul the opportunity to have a White House forum for his nonsense, given the increasing importance of the veep in recent years could well appeal to his crazed ambitions.

[moi621]

There is something about Dr. Paul that cannot be rationally dismissed.

According to a Rasmussen Reports poll, at the moment Representative Paul bests Mr. Obama in a head-to-head matchup by 43 to 41 percent.

The same poll has Mitt Romney tied with Obama, at 44 percent each. Rick Santorum is three points behind the president, and Newt Gingrich is 10 points behind.



The days news is he is taking on the Republican establishment trying to cheat him in Texas and Washington state.

Oh, some years ago Dr. Paul's one ounce silver coin bought 4 gallons of gasoline. Today it buys 11 !
He lectured Bernecke on currency value.

That's the Dr. Paul news.

[Elizabeth]

There is something about Dr. Paul that cannot be rationally dismissed.

According to a Rasmussen Reports poll, at the moment Representative Paul bests Mr. Obama in a head-to-head matchup by 43 to 41 percent.

The same poll has Mitt Romney tied with Obama, at 44 percent each. Rick Santorum is three points behind the president, and Newt Gingrich is 10 points behind.



The days news is he is taking on the Republican establishment trying to cheat him in Texas and Washington state.

Oh, some years ago Dr. Paul's one ounce silver coin bought 4 gallons of gasoline. Today it buys 11 !
He lectured Bernecke on currency value.

That's the Dr. Paul news.

It seems that Rasmussen polls are kinda like polls in Republican heaven. Now considered not credible by everyone else, just like Fox News. We lie, you repeat to others as if true.

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1209/31047.html

Democrats are turning their fire on Scott Rasmussen, the prolific independent pollster whose surveys on elections, President Obama’s popularity and a host of other issues are surfacing in the media with increasing frequency.

The pointed attacks reflect a hardening conventional wisdom among prominent liberal bloggers and many Democrats that Rasmussen Reports polls are, at best, the result of a flawed polling model and, at worst, designed to undermine Democratic politicians and the party’s national agenda.

On progressive-oriented websites, anti-Rasmussen sentiment is an article of faith. “Rasmussen Caught With Their Thumb on the Scale,” blared the Daily Kos this summer. “Rasmussen Reports, You Decide,” the blog Swing State Project recently headlined in a play on the Fox News motto.

“I don’t think there are Republican polling firms that get as good a result as Rasmussen does,” said Eric Boehlert, a senior fellow with Media Matters, a progressive research center. “His data looks like it all comes out of the RNC [Republican National Committee].”

“Whether intended or not, Rasmussen polls have been used by conservative voices as talking points, and when that happens on one side it inevitably produces a reaction from the other,” explained Mark Blumenthal, a polling analyst and the editor and publisher of Pollster.com. “Rasmussen produces a lot of data that appear to produce narratives conservatives are promoting, and that causes a reaction.”

While Scott Rasmussen, the firm’s president, contends that he has no ax to grind — his bio notes that he has been “an independent pollster for more than a decade” and “has never been a campaign pollster or consultant for candidates seeking office” — his opponents on the left insist he is the hand that feeds conservative talkers a daily trove of negative numbers that provides grist for attacks on Obama and the Democratic Party.

Nothing, however, sets off liberal teeth gnashing more than Rasmussen’s daily presidential tracking polls, which throughout the year have consistently placed Obama’s approval numbers around 5 percentage points lower than other polling outfits.

“He polls less favorably for Democrats, and that’s why he’s become a lightning rod,” said Charles Franklin, a University of Wisconsin political scientist who studies polling. “It’s clear that his results are typically more Republican than the other person’s results.”

On Saturday, Dec. 26, for example, Rasmussen’s daily tracking had Obama’s approval at 44 percent, with a disapproval figure of 56 percent. A Real Clear Politics compilation of other pollsters, meanwhile, showed Obama with an average approval figure of 49.5 percent and disapproval of 45.1 percent.

“He’s been underpolling Obama all year,” said Boehlert. “People start thinking, ‘There’s something going on here.’”

That's just the first page of the article, go and read it all. Now for some real poll numbers. You seemed to have left these ones out.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/latest_polls/#

General Election: Romney vs. Obama CBS News/NY Times Obama 48, Romney 42 Obama +6
General Election: Romney vs. Obama PPP (D) Obama 49, Romney 42 Obama +7
General Election: Santorum vs. Obama CBS News/NY Times Obama 49, Santorum 41 Obama +8
General Election: Santorum vs. Obama PPP (D) Obama 49, Santorum 44 Obama +5
General Election: Gingrich vs. Obama CBS News/NY Times Obama 54, Gingrich 36 Obama +18
General Election: Gingrich vs. Obama PPP (D) Obama 52, Gingrich 40 Obama +12
General Election: Paul vs. Obama CBS News/NY Times Obama 50, Paul 39 Obama +11
General Election: Paul vs. Obama PPP (D) Obama 49, Paul 41 Obama +8

President Obama Job Approval CBS News/NY Times Approve 50, Disapprove 43 Approve +7
Congressional Job Approval CBS News/NY Times Approve 10, Disapprove 82 Disapprove +72

Something here for everyone. But those Rasmussen polls sure do look different from these ones.

Elizabeth

[A-1]

1. No WAY is Ron Paul even remotely comparable to Sarah Palin. Sarah Palin is STUPID. Ron Paul, although NOT somebody desirable is FAR from stupid. I would suggest that he MAY be brilliant. Perhaps even genius. But NOT Presidential material.

2. Rasmussen polls are actually ran by descendents of RASPUTIN... they have the same "charming" effect on gullible, silly, hallucinating Republicans who actually ENJOY being raped.

3. I do not know how they choose their respondents, perhaps they use a list of Tea Party loonies...

[moi621]

Thank You for the info about Rasmussen polls.
I will regard them like a Cato Institute reference.

Moi

[Slammr]

When matched up against the Republican front runner Mitt Romney, President Obama has an 11 point edge, with voters siding with the president 52% to 41%. President Obama also holds a 10 point lead of Rick Santorum, 52% to 42%. President Obama's biggest lead comes against the former House Speaker, Newt Gingrich, with voters sticking with the president in a commanding way, 54% to 37%. Ron Paul has fallen so far behind, voters weren't even polled on his comparison to President Obama.

Continue reading on Examiner.com New poll: President Obama leads all Republican candidates, approval back to 50% - Orlando liberal | Examiner.com http://www.examiner.com/liberal-in-o...#ixzz1p7csStD9

[moi621]

It may well be an open convention.
Something the youngsters have never seen
and us old farts didn't appreciate in our youth.

Moi
Still a Paulist.
My ego does not require I support the winner. Rather my

[Riverwind]

Moi, I know just how you feel I felt the same way in 92, nobody to vote for so I voted green I think.

River

[Mac]

It may well be an open convention.
Something the youngsters have never seen
and us old farts didn't appreciate in our youth.

Moi
Still a Paulist.
My ego does not require I support the winner. Rather my

California might be the deciding state.

[kristoff]

California might be the deciding state.

I hope not. I hope it drags out til the convention...