Just keep it up, I can ban people all day.
River
Yes
No
Yes, at least 10
Yes, at least 25
Yes, more then 25 posts in other areas of the archive.
Birther and Racist comments
Just keep it up, I can ban people all day.
River
He who would trade liberty for some temporary security, deserves neither liberty nor security.
Your representative owes you, not his industry only, but his judgment; and he betrays instead of serving you if he sacrifices it to your opinion.
Edmund Burke
Posting here and in the deep dark cellar may be changed a bit, we have noticed that a couple new people and we welcome you to the boards, are only posting in these sections.
This site is for transgendered and Eunuch issues first and foremost, the deep dark cellar and the political section were added years ago to move those posts out of the main site. We feel that a new member should participate in the site theme before moving into the political area. This has not become law yet, we are talking about it so when it finally comes down that you will need to post in other sections of this site before you can post here that is why.
River
He who would trade liberty for some temporary security, deserves neither liberty nor security.
Your representative owes you, not his industry only, but his judgment; and he betrays instead of serving you if he sacrifices it to your opinion.
Edmund Burke
We're part way there. Since new members can't use PMs until having posted 5 times, and Political and Cellar posts don't count toward post count, there is some encouragement.
Nuke a Gay Baby Whale for Jesus
I have noticed some not all with zero post count but several political posts end up flaming the threads. I think a minimum of 10 posts regarding EA issues before political opining.
Tugon (two gone)
“Compassion hurts. When you feel connected to everything, you also feel responsible for everything. And you cannot turn away. Your destiny is bound with the destinies of others. You must either learn to carry the Universe or be crushed by it. You must grow strong enough to love the world, yet empty enough to sit down at the same table with its worst horrors.”
Andrew Boyd
I think that there should be some limit of messages, before allowing posting to political section.
Currently I am not sure, how much, that should be. Sometimes political section, or deep dark cellar raise interesting topics, but still, the primary topic of The Archive is eunuch/transgender related.
May be we should not limit initial messages, but set a ratio check, say that one can not post in political section more, that 1/3 of his/hers/its post count in other, ontopic, sections.
(I do not know if this can be easily implemented).
Maybe I will know
What's there in my soul
And my road will flow
To place I've always had to go...
As one of the members you refer to I obstained from voting in the poll.
I discovered this forum (i suspect like many others) from a Google search that brought up the eunuch archive stories.
I first visited this forum back before it was taken down and subsequently restored while I read the other threads and learned from them I rarely find one that pertains to my level of interests and experience (more on the experience part) in eunuch issues I finally set up an account to engage in this particular section of the forums and ended up making only one post in the "gay bisexual and tg room" of all places. Anyway I forgot the password to the mail on that account (tmguns12) and subsequently made a new one to access the stories archives.
In the section that most pertains to me there are only 2 threads that have received posts in the last month (ladies and gentlemen). And while i have read those threads I don't have anything to contribute to them. Most of the threads in that section that I have read are about the issues of people much farther along than me, and while i do have questions about what its like they are for the most part covered by the responses of those who have that experience.
I actually only discovered the restriction on pming last night, I had run into it before and assumed that my post count was not yet high enough, upon visiting the help forums i discovered that i was correct, so I once more went into the other forums looking for a thread that I felt comfortable posting in, it shouldn't come as a surprise that once more i found mostly the same threads that i had previously read and again found no posts that my lvl of experience gave me what I considered the relevancy to respond to or comment on, I did find some comedy and some thing else in the deep dark cellar however.
Anyway, if I felt that I had something to contribute to those threads (rather than just learning from them) I would, but as I don't, I don't feel that spam posting in them to inflate my post count and gain privileges is a good choice. Would it make me a better poster if i made posts in the ladies and gentleman forum asking for information that was already there? Or if i went into the Gay bi tg room and asked question about sexuality and made comments on that said sexuality that i have little experience with other than a very few classmates and a former co worker? The few issues there that concern me have been beaten to death in discussion of such subjects as Bisexuality-question, It does interest me but i lack the experience to add anything of worth to it that someone else didn't already talk about.
Anyway just my two rolls of pennies on the subject.
Last edited by gunnutz; 10-16-2011 at 03:47 AM.
I vote no. Two hardly constitute an invasion and I doubt that people looking to post political opinions are looking for eunuchs to harass. The discretion of the moderators has handled abusive behavior before; I see no reason to think it won't suffice in the future, If we are confronted with an onslaught of abusive non-eunuch political posters, we can return to the question, but I see no need for a rule at this time. I doubt many arrive here totally by accident. Most of us had one or more of what the general culture would regard as kinks. I assume the same for the political posters.
Transward
nil humanum a me alienum est
Trans, good point thanks.
River
He who would trade liberty for some temporary security, deserves neither liberty nor security.
Your representative owes you, not his industry only, but his judgment; and he betrays instead of serving you if he sacrifices it to your opinion.
Edmund Burke
someone who might be gay, trans, eunuch may not necessarily have an obsession with what this site was originally set up to focus on. I firmly believe that this site should be about inclusiveness, and setting a limit that says someone has to have participated in eunuch-related discussions before they're allowed to post seems exclusive to me and sort of against the spirit of what the EA has evolved into.
I would also agree with you, however, back to my original post, this site is about eunuchs and transgendered issues first and foremost. We could remove the DDC and the Political section all together and this also has been talked about and it should not hurt our site, because they are not what this site is about. So yes I agree that any member should have access to it, however the question is should they first participate in the main focus of what this site all about?
River
He who would trade liberty for some temporary security, deserves neither liberty nor security.
Your representative owes you, not his industry only, but his judgment; and he betrays instead of serving you if he sacrifices it to your opinion.
Edmund Burke
Instituting a minimum post count to have access to the political boards might tone the rhetoric down a bit in there.
--LT
Sometimes you're the windshield, sometimes you're the bug.
I voted before today and I've read the discussion.
First let me say this -- there are many things that I do not post in the political section because the site is not for that.
And I do post quite a few new threads in politics.
Second, it nearly never escapes my attention that a new poster is out and about.
Third, I have noticed that the post count doesn't increment on political posts.
All that being said - I agree with River's first post that the Deep Dark Cellar and Politics sections are candy for the good boys and girls. The price of admission should be participation in the main topics. That might be an odd way of putting it but it's my opinion.
“They also call it the Winged Isle. Some say it is because the island, if seen from above, would look like butterfly wings. And I do not know the truth of it.” Then, “ ‘And what is truth?’ said jesting Pilate.” From: The Truth Is A Cave In The Black Mountains by Neil Gaiman.
I doubt it. Most of the inflamed rhetoric around here comes from posters w/ post counts greater than 500.Originally Posted by Losethem
Transward
nil humanum a me alienum est
There's a fundamental law of nature called the Law of Unintended Consequences. If people cannot post on the political boards until they've posted in the eunuch/transgendered areas, what are they apt to do? It wouldn't surprise me if they start posting political things in the latter areas or post "junk" to these areas just to get their count up. Would it be best to let them post their political rants where those of us more interested in non-political topics can conveniently ignore them? If disk space is an issue, maybe the political threads could be purged of the oldest posts from time to time. Just a thought....
Sandi
I agree (and not not just to get in good with the hot chick in the room)
If you force people to post just for the sake of posting they'll more often than not pick a subject and just post "Yeah I'd be interested in something like <insert subject> and just like that 1 post. It doesn't add to a discussion it's just there to get them over the arbitrary hump (as it were).
I voted No
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