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    Quote Originally Posted by Riverwind View Post
    I wonder if Ron Paul actually got in and was actually able to change some things, what would the country look like.

    He is big on doing away with all sorts of agencies, so I decided to pick one.

    THE IRS

    First we kill off all the income tax codes, capital gains, death tax, (you republicans happy so far?) we eliminate everything and start over.

    First thing we eliminate all the deductions for everything under the sun, NO deductions for anything. Next we set a new progressive tax system that effects every income level. The poor making under say 20k a year would pay 1.5% they cant afford much but everybody should pay something. The 1% would pay 90%. NO DEDUCTIONS. not for interest payments on your home, not for kids, not because your single and filing joint, or any other such nonsense. As a matter of fact your taxes could be done on one sheet of paper and if filled in with black ink could be scanned so that the computer operator at the IRS would be able to handle all 500 million returns in a few days. The IRS would be reduced in size to 5 people, you need a boss so one of them, a computer programmer, a computer operator, a person in the mail room and a Secretary. I think that would about cover it.

    Result, you cut spending by several millions a year by firing all the people who now work for the IRS, you could then sell off the buildings for even more cash, applying it all to the national debt, as the new IRS would only need a back room off the capital building.

    Now you fix this new law and make it so it can not be changed for any reason until the national debt is under 1980 levels. (that was just under a trillion). This should make all republicans so happy, it will do two things they have been screaming about, cutting spending and lowering the national debt. Everybody is involved from the poorest of the poor to the richest of the rich in this effort. What could be more American??? Now the one tax that would remain in tact is the Social Security tax, 50/50. We must maintain that for retirement past, present and future.

    The last part of this law would be that congress can not pass any bill unless its paid for in advance. At the same time we eliminate all charities living off the dole. They too would need to pay tax on what they take in, after all everybody is in on this no exceptions.

    So Moi, the only question I have is do you like it?

    How many years do you think it would take to pay off the national debt?

    OK so I am sitting here having a pipe dream.

    River
    You honestly believe that someone should have to pay 90% of their income in taxes?

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    Perhaps it's no surprise that the anti-American left is determined to minimize the teaching of American history. When I went to school I studied US history every year from 1st grade through high school. The need was considered obvious. Today, I understand that "world history," in which US history plays but a small part often supplants US history entirely. Again, let me ask about the curricula in other countries. Do they not consider it essential to pass on their own history?

    But Slammr is right that US history is a tapestry woven of many separate peoples, all of whom became American despite where they came from. The history of all these peoples needs to be told in the context of the history of which it was a part. Atomizing and Balkanizing the US may be an objective of the left (divide and conquer), but we should pay it no mind. Rather, we should strive to undo the harm that has already been done to generations of America's young in the name of long-outdated agendas from the 1960s.
    I have great respect for bob's intelligence - until every one of his responses becomes about some Left-wing conspiracy that's about to destroy America. Is this all the Republicans have going for them - fear? It's not the Left that want Intelligent Design or Creationism taught in public schools. It's not the Left that's trying to keep teachers from discussing Gay in school. It's not the Left trying to rewrite history.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DavidB View Post
    You honestly believe that someone should have to pay 90% of their income in taxes?
    Yes!
    The Eisenhower Tax code adjusted to 2012 dollars.

    I Wonder:

    Shouldn't taxation be an effort to spread the pain of national costs (Progressive)
    or
    should taxation be like an equal membership fee? (Regressive)

    Moi
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    The bible thumpers want a theocracy and Corporate America wants a oligarchy. Is there any hope for our democracy?

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    The bible thumpers want a theocracy and Corporate America wants a oligarchy. Is there any hope for our democracy?
    We actually, here in US, live in a republic, not a democracy. Ideally we protect the rights of the minority from the tyranny of the majority. Any hope for that?
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    Quote Originally Posted by bobover3 View Post
    The average person knows little history of any kind. There's no special ignorance of non-American or non-European history. Most people know little beyond what they've personally experienced plus a garbled version of the fictions they've seen on TV or the movies. It's easy to create "history" by placing a fiction in a TV show or movie. Then most people will say they know it. I've met few Americans with any knowledge of American history beyond a few popular myths, and fewer still who know anything at all about contemporary Europe, let alone European history.

    The idea that there's a selective ignorance of the history of "people of color," and also women, flies in the face of US academic history for the past 40 years. There are few colleges today, at least among those considered prestigious, that do not have large departments studying all the supposedly suppressed histories, languages, and cultures. Departments of Black and Women's Studies are both mandatory. Literature about Asia, Africa, Latin America, et al., is required for most freshmen. In fact, many high schools now include this material in their curricula, not wanting to be left behind when it comes to academic fashion and political indoctrination. (These curricula are predictably anti-American and anti-white, by implication, if not openly.)

    Yet we continue to be told about the poor "marginalized" peoples of the world. Examine the course catalog of any major university today, and you'll find more classes and more faculty concerned with these subjects in total than with American and European history. Majoring in Chinese is "cool" today. Majoring in French is not. Ask any students you know at a major university.

    So why do we still hear about the supposed invisibility of non-white people? Because it serves the ends of those whose profession is non-white cultures - it guarantees jobs, grants, publications, etc.

    Now let me ask: go to China or Japan or anywhere in Latin America or Africa and tell me if the people there scorn their own histories and languages as we do ours. Do they scant their own histories as we do, or is it considered an obvious necessity for people to be well versed in their own culture, supplemented with knowledge of others? I understand that all Chinese students are taught English. Does this mean they don't spend more time with Chinese language, history, and culture?

    Every nation has a history whose passage from one generation to the next is essential to the very survival of that nation as a nation. Every nation determined to endure is careful to teach its children what it means to belong to that nation.

    Perhaps it's no surprise that the anti-American left is determined to minimize the teaching of American history. When I went to school I studied US history every year from 1st grade through high school. The need was considered obvious. Today, I understand that "world history," in which US history plays but a small part often supplants US history entirely. Again, let me ask about the curricula in other countries. Do they not consider it essential to pass on their own history?

    But Slammr is right that US history is a tapestry woven of many separate peoples, all of whom became American despite where they came from. The history of all these peoples needs to be told in the context of the history of which it was a part. Atomizing and Balkanizing the US may be an objective of the left (divide and conquer), but we should pay it no mind. Rather, we should strive to undo the harm that has already been done to generations of America's young in the name of long-outdated agendas from the 1960s.
    Bob,

    Just out of curiosity? Is there any minority group that you are a member of, that has been marginalized by society? In the sense that people have widespread misinformation about you and it makes them dislike you without knowing you? And I am not being sarcastic or trying to bait you. I am really interested in knowing if you know what it feels like to have the "majority" take away your human dignity simply because they are the majority. I come from a world that tells me that the majority is not right, by virtue of being the majority, and in fact are often times wrong, as history has shown us. I feel that as long as bigotry against Black Americans is alive and well, which it is, then it's justified to bring attention to the history of Black people. It's only by exposing the humanity of others does equality truly happen. Having said that, I think we should have a "(fill in the blank) ___________ history month" for all American cultures who feel the hand of bigotry. Here on the west coast I see a lot of bigotry towards people of Asian descent. We need to teach those histories and those cultures also. But the biggest slight of all is that no one really spends much time on the Native Americans, except as to detail their genocide. History before Europeans is practically ignored. You would think that American History would begin before Europeans got here. But it doesn't. Instead it moves to how the Europeans discovered America, as if it didn't exist until then. It's a really skewed point of view. Just like calling it "the new world". It was not new at all and neither were the people who inhabited it. Not only that, but the 12,000 year written history of the Aztecs was destroyed by Cortez because it was "blasphemous". It contradicted the Bible.

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    I wonder

    Why a rail gun?
    Why not a maglev gun or are they keeping that one for the next generation?
    I mean rails. Really? Re-invent the rail road train too for all that tax money.

    Moi
    Ever wondering.

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    Quote Originally Posted by moi621 View Post
    I wonder

    Why a rail gun?
    Why not a maglev gun or are they keeping that one for the next generation?
    I mean rails. Really? Re-invent the rail road train too for all that tax money.

    Moi
    Ever wondering.
    The new railguns are maglev. If you have seen the superman ride at Magic Mountain, then you have seen railgun technolgy. but what if your coils were made of superconducting material and you used liquid helium to cool off that material? Well, you could make a really powerful railgun. One that could launch ships into low earth orbit or perhaps even more.

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    I wonder:

    Is there life before death and can you prove it?

    Moi
    A petulant demiurge has enslaved my spirit in physical form.

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    Quote Originally Posted by moi621 View Post
    I wonder:

    Is there life before death and can you prove it?

    Moi
    A petulant demiurge has enslaved my spirit in physical form.

    Only if you throw out religion as a non factor.

    I will give you the Quantum Physics on it later but in simple terms were star stuff.


    Moi wonders why, and I wonder why not.


    River
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    Quote Originally Posted by Riverwind View Post
    Only if you throw out religion as a non factor.

    I will give you the Quantum Physics on it later but in simple terms were star stuff.


    Moi wonders why, and I wonder why not.


    River
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    Moi is the wonder and
    River is the anti-wonder.



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    I wonder

    Has misandry, the hatred or dislike of men or boys,
    become the American norm in these post feminist times?

    Moi
    Not Anti-Wonder.

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    Sometimes I wonder, LOL River wonders, if your pulling my chain or if I am pulling yours.



    River
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    Hardly for me. I like men, boys when they grow up. If I am going to be hateful, I would by a mysogynist (but I am not), though my Master's mentor suggested I might be a misanthrope (screw him). Meanwhile, I am not a mis-moi-thrope, just entertained.
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    I wonder

    Is Los Angeles gas the best?
    It costs the most.

    Compared to the O.C. Not the OK

    Moi
    I better drive 50 miles north and get me some of that better gas.

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