Why I hate Conservatives

[Riverwind]

You know it had to happen with one already started on Liberals.

What I hate about conservatives these days is there total lack or desire to come to the table, any table to work on anything. JUST SAY NO.

But lets talk about them one and all.

Lets start with Joe McCarthy in the 50's doing the same thing that Bush did a couple years ago, calling people un-American if they did not agree with him. We all know that story, it was a sad day for this country to be sure, Conservatives are still doing that today, now, name calling just like Joe did in the 50's. it was wrong then its wrong today.

Then we have Spiro Agnew, Vice President and Crook. left office to his new home in some prison.

Richard M Nixon, "I am not a crook",

Ronald Star Wars Reagan, people forget just how much he added to the national debt while trying to end the USSR, and what did we get out of it, WE KILLED THE EVIL EMPIRE, now there are 20 or so around the world, to be honest, I would rather have the old one then all the new ones we have now. He also gave us Trickle down economics, which just how has it helped you or trickled down to you, please explain, show your work because the only thing that trickled down was shit.
'Testing one, two, three, we start bombing Russia in 15 minutes', as the world went to defcon 4, this great man said, "it was a joke", yes, I miss Ronnie, voted for him twice. sigh, OK, everybody got sucked in on that one.

Bush Sr, was not a bad president, or good one, he only made one bad mistake, NO NEW TAXES.

There is not enough space to list Jr's fuckups. He was the worst president this country ever had, sense the start.

A presidency built on lies and deception, WMD, got us into a war we did not need to be in then or now. Isolated us from the rest of the world, making those conservative statements like your with me or your the enemy, wow, such forward thinking. He allowed an American city to be flooded and stay that way then wash his hands of it. His final gift to the American People was financial ruin. WELL DONE George, All because god was on his side, that and the conservative right who put him there.

Yet somehow the problems we have right now are blamed on the Liberals. Go Figure, Just like a conservative, spend money on wars, tax breaks for the rich, take everything you can, then bitch when some liberal says you must put some of it back.

Its good conservatives like Reagan, Bush and shrub that have changed me from being a good Conservative to an ever better Liberal. The funny thing is my views have not changed, the conservatives have moved from right of center to right of la la land with a new moto, NO< NO< NO< NO< NO. kinda reminds me of my ex-wife in bed.

River

[DeaconBlues]

Boy oh boy! OMG! Last night, I published yet another of my ultra-long-winded rants in the "Why I hate liberals" thread... So sorry, some of the stuff in that rant was, me being a bit misinformed (e.g. John John Kennedy's funeral). The whole while I was writing I was thinking in the back of my head, "conservatives" have done just as much evil... but that was for another thread. NOW! Voila! We have the "Why I hate Conservatives" thread.

I do not have much time now, but I will be posting a long-winded rant, about why I hate some "conservative" fuck-ups who have hi-jacked the Republican party. For now, know that all the vitriol I poured out on the Kennedy's and the Democrats will be equalled in what I have for the Bushevic trash and the Republicans.

[bobberlove]

Adolf Hitler once famously said (presumably in German) "you are either with us or against us." I recall watching the History Channel documentation of marching Nazis yelling "join us" all the while throwing bricks through windows, beating up people who, coincidentally, did not want to join. This is why the "far left" (the hippies) called Republicans "fascists"...it fit because the behavior is the same, albeit symbolic, the bullying still exists with speech, political symbolic bullshit, "swiftboating" the opposition...

I think the Republican party basically consists of rednecks and the rich. This means the rich get the people in place (i.e., Republicans) and the rednecks are the stormtroopers/brownshirts for the rich. Now they call the fascist tactics of 1930's Europe "tea parties." Again, the behavior is the same,right?

Finally, I think the fact that an idiot whose father promised him a "desk job" has gone back to the village from which he was evolved.

[Batman]

In no particular order:

The Policy of Fear Mongering

Intolerance of others: religion, race, ideas

Us against Them mentality on everything

[moi621]

Let's try remember some outstanding, intellectual conservatives such as
Barry Goldwater and William Buckley.
Goldwater called Nixon out as a crook and neither was prone to repeating "tea party" like mantras.
I doubt either would approve of Neo-Conservatives, Contract with America, or Sarah Palin.
I avoided this thread concept because to rant about conservatives on a liberal biased Board is just,
so easy.

At least, Neo-Conservatives know how to use power. Even when representing a minority.
The Liberals still have not figured that out.
Moi

[flipper1212]

Are you kidding??? Hate conservatives??? First, I'm from the south side of Chicago and I know exactly who Obama is (and his lovely cunt Michele). Hmmmm? I wonder why Obama never recognizes that he is half white. A bi-racial president. Is he a racist? No, I dont' think so. Is he ashamed? Again no, that isn't the issue. Is it because he can get more political capital in Chicago and elsewhere? BINGO! It served him well including on election day when nice looking huge black men in suits and ties were carrying weapons telling people at the polls who to vote for. Don't belive me? I have pictures. I was there. In fact I was threatened too because I was taking pictures for the Chicago Art Institute. But what the rest of the nation saw was Oprah tearing up at the Grant Park rally and everyone singing Kumbiya. How touching. But thats not whats stopping someone from killing you and your loved ones in your sleep tonight. Its the awe and power of the USA and our military. Our democracy dammit! Thats why you are safe in your bed tonight. Not because some left or right politician is in the White House.

Take away the smile, pretty words and empty skull and all you have left is a radical suck up who will do anything and I mean anything to get what he wants. Put the country into so much debt that they will never get out of in your life time or the next generation, redistribute my hard EARNED wealth to those who don't give a shit and don't even try, strong arm businesses, take more control of your freedoms and what am I missing? Oh yeah, go behind closed doors in secret. shhhhh! Don't tell the American public that we are fucking them royaly on their health care so so Mr. "You Lie" feeds, houses, and takes care of those who don't want to come here legally. Yeah you should hate the conservatives. You really have a solid plan there. Do oyu actually agree with all that liberals do or is it that its jsut more cool to bash conservatives??

Do you have any concept of how the USA is NOW being perceived by the rest of the world? WEAK and gullible. You thought that Bush was in the pocket of big business and the oil industry? Check out who visits the White most these days. Check out who is benefiting from the must have, must do it now stimulus. It certainly is not the American people. Disagree with the Obama administration and you are harassed, branded a mindless idiot and thats just for starters. Then they come after your sexuality, family and business ventures.

Now lets talk about WMD"S. It was not just Bush who acted on that bad information. It was ALL of congress. It was not just the USA either. It was the entire UN, France, England, Germany and yes EVEN Russia. So if you want to point your finger and blame someone, lets be fair! K?

Now to GITMO. Was YOUR 25 year old son in the World Trade Center on 9-11-01? If not, shut your fucking liberal mouth because you don't know shit! You don't what loss is until some fuck hands you a small box of ashes and says this is about 18% of your son. We couldn't find the rest of him.

Do you REALLY think that those animals are abused at GITMO? If so, you should see a doctor. Better yet talk to your congressman and arrange to go for a visit. Put your money where your mouth is. Hopefully they won't throw their shit and piss at you while you are there like they do to our troops daily. As Obama said in his hard earned Nobel speech, "we have been the protecter of the world at the cost of our citizens blood". That's why the world is safe.

Why do liberals think we should give these pigs the same rights as you and I when they hide behind religion, children, women, 25 year old traders trying to make an honest living and never come out of the darkness? If they had any balls (which is what you should be talking about on this web site and not your fucked up politics) they would be out fighting our military face to face. But nooooo, they like to put explosives in their tiddy whities and try to kill innocent people on Christmas Day. I bet if you were sitting next to him when he tried to blow up the plane you would have just sat there and gave him a hug, asked him to join the SEIU while you waited for the government to solve your immediate problem.

Lets not stop there let's tell the terrorist where our troops are, promise not to hurt them or even get them wet and kiss the ass of their bosses in countries who outright hate Americans and teach their children to kill us and not love. Lets have our so called leader bow to them. Whats next? Should we hold their hands while they plan to kill your family or whats left of mine?

Why don't you crawl back into your little pacificst liberal hole, sit there and let the government feed, you, tell you what to think and do. Then maybe, just maybe the rest of the terrorist animals in world will let you live. K dude?

Better yet MAN UP and learn how the world really works. The people in other countries don't give a fuck about our liberal or conservative views. It boils down to survival.

The icing on this board is the bright bulb who likes to quote Hitler like he was some sort of rational human who knew best for everyone. Priceless!

[IbPervert]

In no particular order:

The Policy of Fear Mongering

Intolerance of others: religion, race, ideas

Us against Them mentality on everything

Those are the same things that Al-Qaeda wants out of life! If Sarah Palin was a man she could be charge of them.

[IbPervert]

Why do liberals think we should give these pigs the same rights as you and I when they hide behind religion, children, women, 25 year old traders trying to make an honest living and never come out of the darkness?

Why do terrorists deserve a fair trail? Why do terrorists deserve the same rights as you and I? Oh, what priceless quesions...

Let me tell you why! We are The United States of America and in this country the constitution gives everyone with in our borders the right to a fair and impartial trail. The constitution includes everyone and excludes no one that is unless you can show me were in the document it says "terrorists not included!"

Another reason to give them a fair trial...if this country were to go out and just hang them then this nation would be no better then the terrorists themselves. Don't forget they will grab you then torture you and hang you with out due process!

Is that what this nation wants to become? a bunch of thugs who will take someone out and hang them when we disagree with them?

Now do not get me wrong! I think they have it far to easy down in Gitmo they want to pray let them guess which way is mecca. Lets give them sausage for breakfast, ham sandwiches for lunch and pork chops for dinner!

This country is suppose to be the land of the free and a "shinning example" for everyone all over the world to look up to and we cant be that "shinning example" if we are going to start hanging everyone that disagrees with us.

[Riverwind]

Better yet MAN UP and learn how the world really works. The people in other countries don't give a fuck about our liberal or conservative views. It boils down to survival.

The icing on this board is the bright bulb who likes to quote Hitler like he was some sort of rational human who knew best for everyone. Priceless!

I do believe you posted this on the wrong thread, you have some issues I see, but here you need to calm down a bit, chill out. Your post does not need a rebuttal, nor do I care for your insults personal and otherwise. Stick to the issue as per the topic of the thread, and most of all don't make it personal. You made it personal, your new here so be warned, keep in clean.

River

[lisarenee]

<i>... It served him well including on election day when nice looking huge black men in suits and ties were carrying weapons telling people at the polls who to vote for. Don't belive me? I have pictures. [/I]

Yeah flipper, I'd really like to see those pictures.

[gareth19]

Then we have Spiro Agnew, Vice President and Crook. left office to his new home in some prison.

Agnew pled nolo contendere, resigned, and went golfing; he did not go to prison any more than Dick Cheney did, though both obviously deserved a few years in the slammer.

I don't often edit another's post
After Nixon and Agnew were elected to a second term, Agnew became the focus of an investigation by the U.S. Attorney's office in Maryland for financial irregularities while he held state office. Rather than face trial, Agnew resigned and entered a plea of no contest to charges of evading income tax. He was sentenced to three years probation and fined $10,000. After he left office Agnew avoided publicity and went into business as an international broker. In 1981 he was ordered by a Maryland court to repay more than $248,000 to cover bribes he took while in state office.

Thanks River

Ronald Star Wars Reagan, people forget just how much he added to the national debt while trying to end the USSR

Reagan hadn't any thought, hey I could end it right there couldn't I? but to continue, any thought of bankrupting the USSR. He was just trying to line the pockets of defense contractors at the expense of the Republicans' favorite target group, the American taxpayer. You can see how unplanned and unexpected the collapse of the Soviet Union was by the fiasco that followed. Remember the "experts" at the CIA were still insisting that without more bombs to vaporize the Rooskies, their economy would overtake ours by 2001. The disintegration of the Soviet Union, the attempted putsch that put Yeltsin and his bottle of vodka in charge, and the tons of unaccounted weapons grade plutonium that should give us all sleepless nights testify to how totally unprepared Reagan and the California mafia were for the actual result of their wild little spending spree. [/QUOTE]

Bush Sr, was not a bad president, or good one, he only made one bad mistake, NO NEW TAXES.

No, his real mistake was forgetting to use a condom on October 13, 1945. We've all paid dearly for that one.

My views have not changed

With wisdom, you come, like Arianna Huffington, to realize that the conservatives talk about personal freedom but never want anyone to actually use it; talk about fiscal responsibility, but never exercise it; blather about patriotism, but are willing to sell their country out for styrofoam, and still believe in supply side economics even though it has never worked, and how they expect Paris Hilton to buy enough condoms or do enough rehab to float an economy escapes everyone else.

[Paolo]

Adolf Hitler once famously said (presumably in German) "you are either with us or against us."

Anyone who knows the Bible should realize that this is a perverted paraphrasing of words that Jesus Christ said.

As for the rest of the ranting that is taking place here, everyone is entitled to express their views and various theories.

However, if the personal insulting starts up, this thread will be removed. Not just closed - removed. It IS being watched.

[gareth19]

Let's try remember some outstanding, intellectual conservatives

The problem is we can't come up with any.

Barry Goldwater ... Goldwater called Nixon out as a crook

and also stood up for gays in the military (perhaps because his own grandson was gay), but Goldwater (along with all of the other conservatives) opposed civil rights legislation. Goldwater famously explained his opposition to civil rights by stating "you can pass a law to make me like you or you like me." I hope you recognize the outstanding, intellectual bankruptcy of that statement. It has converted a legal right into a matter of personal affection. We do not grant Sarah Palin the right to vote in elections or serve in political offices for which she is manifestly unqualified because we like her, we do so because it is a basic political right, and to deny her or anyone else that right because of an irrelevant issue like gender, race, sexual preference lessens all of us. And Barry just couldn't grasp a concept that he should have learned in a high school civics class.

William Buckley

Jack Parr asked of Steve Allen's claim to have written over 1,000 songs, "name two"; of William F. Buckley's alleged intelligence, try to come up with a single, original idea or concept? Pretentious verbiage aside, Buckley was a mediocre intellect, a perennial talk-show guest, and a non-entity.

You are right however that Lee Atwater and Karl Rove knew how to fight dirty. They masters at impugning the patriotism of decorated war veterans and wrapping draft dodgers and deserters in the flag (and you can see how much they love the flag by their complete disregard of the kind of shit they wrap in it) and diverting the issue. This is of course the tactic of high school debaters; it isn't an intellectual exercise. You may recall in Perelandra that in his contest with the Unman, Ransom finally comes to realize that his opponent only uses ideas as convenient weapons and has no real intellectual affinity for thought. It is amazing that an Oxford don who never visited America could understand heart and soul of the Republican party so well.

[moi621]

Gareth et al
It was not suggested that absolute agreement exists with Goldwater or Buckley.
Only that they did represent good ethics and morals and intellect while believing and expressing conservative views. And they deserve respect.
Moi
too easy to knock conservatives with this audience bias

[nonuts]

I'll say the same here I said on the "hate the liberals thread" the only thing I really hate is...hate.