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    Health care costs choking small businesses

    >>As we listen to the debates on healthcare, here is an article that bears 0f the discussion.
    >>It's always been tough ton small businesses out there.
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    Health care costs choking small businesses
    By Rachel Streitfeld, CNN
    http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/06/...are/index.html

    WASHINGTON (CNN) -- Maryland auto shop owner Brian England offers health care coverage to his 18 employees, including part-time staff. He calls it "the right thing to do," and besides, he knows taking care of his employees makes good business sense.

    But every year his insurance premium costs rise another 10 or 20 percent, and England worries about the day when the fees will overwhelm him. After payroll and rent, health care is his largest business expense.

    "A business down the road could have their labor rate $5 cheaper than us because that's how much it costs for us to provide health care," England said, referring to the hourly rates his business and competitors might offer customers.

    Of the 46 million Americans living without health care, an outsized majority -- about 60 percent -- work for small businesses, according to the nonprofit Employee Benefit Research Institute. Owners of those businesses say Congress needs to find a solution to an increasingly costly problem -- but they disagree about how to get it right.

    For England, shopping for policies and finding a way to afford to offer the benefits has become a yearly headache.

    "I'm in the business to do auto repair," England said. "I'm not in the business of trying to find out how to provide health coverage and how to get the right sort of plan.... And it's not easy."

    David Guernsey, who employs 170 people at his office supply business in Virginia, has struggled with the same rising costs to cover his employees -- some years, premiums have gone up 25 percent.

    His small company can't hope to compete with the benefits much larger companies can afford to offer their employees.

    "Their premiums are dramatically lower than ours are," Guernsey said. "They have leverage over the health care industry to be able to drive their premiums down, and yet we have to be able to compete with those folks. So it increasingly becomes a major competitive issue for us."

    Guernsey said that, occasionally, job seekers have complained that they're looking for a plan with more extensive coverage than Guernsey's provides, but he called the plan "pretty good, pretty competitive" and said no one has ever turned down a job offer in hopes of getting better benefits elsewhere.

    Both Guernsey and England agree the problem of ballooning costs must be fixed, and they expect the government to take some role in addressing health care costs. Watch business owners discuss the challenges they face. Guernsey is skeptical of too much government involvement, and worries a mandate for employers to offer coverage could push up his premiums.

    "If the requirement were such that the kind of coverage we offer were dramatically different, dramatically more comprehensive, and the cost accordingly would go up significantly -- then that would be a problem," he said.

    Instead, he's hoping small businesses can pool their coverage with larger businesses in order to drive down prices.

    England, however, said he would like to see a government health care plan and an emphasis on preventative care. He said a government plan would force insurance companies to offer competitive rates.

    "I think once we get to doing that and everybody has insurance and we start to push it with the preventative care and community care, that's going to drive down the prices," England said.

    Taking preventative steps is, after all, something he's learned through his work.

    "We've preached preventative care to customers with cars for 31 years," England said. "So if we know it works with cars, we know it works with people, we all know that. It's just a matter of everybody getting onto the plan."

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    I agree with you on this one Dave but something else we need to do is stop this out of contoral law suites that is driving doctors out of busness and driving there ins rates out of the ball park.These high ins rates are passed on the the comsumers and our health care goes up.When we have government health care this WILL stop as the government will not allow this.Sadly we will also not have the care we now have as a lot of doctors are already saying they wont work for peanuts so we do have a catch 22 dont we.
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    This is not an easy issue,I was conversing with a retired postsl worker and a retired state worker and they both said that the Goverment needed to stay ouut of the health care issue as they would mess it up.I asked if they had any problems with the goverment insurance they had.The ansure was it was great and well managed.I asked if it was to much to give the same coverage to the people who were paying for their coverage.They get this free for life and we pay and cannot have it.I was self employed and know what it costs to cover employees and those with their noses in the public trough do not seem to realize that.

    One of our state reps asked me what I thought was needed and my reply was.Give us the same coverage you elected people have.

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    Re: Health care costs choking small businesses

    Quote Originally Posted by augman7518 View Post
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    One of our state reps asked me what I thought was needed and my reply was. Give us the same coverage you elected people have...
    I agree. The Federal Postal health system and most state systems are excellent coverage, well managed and not prone to high costs.

    And guess what, they're all government (fed and state) run.

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    It is not only small business that is choking on the cost of health care. One of the big debts dragging down the American auto industry is the cost of health care, particularly for retirees. It is extremely difficult for American companies, who have to pay for health care, to compete with foreign companies where their governments are paying for care. That is several dollars an hour worth of labor costs that foreign companies don't have to pay. It's no wonder they can undercut our prices.

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    Quote Originally Posted by transward View Post
    It is not only small business that is choking on the cost of health care. One of the big debts dragging down the American auto industry is the cost of health care, particularly for retirees. It is extremely difficult for American companies, who have to pay for health care, to compete with foreign companies where their governments are paying for care. That is several dollars an hour worth of labor costs that foreign companies don't have to pay. It's no wonder they can undercut our prices.

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    It seems that people use computers to keep track of all kinds of data in business and in government.

    It would be interesting and useful to know:

    What is the total cash revenue of ALL of the health insurance companies.
    What is the total cost of medical care and prescription drugs?
    What's the difference between the two?

    That would be the short fall that needs to be covered by individuals.

    You don't get GROUP car insurance or house insurance from your employer.
    Why should youget group health insurance from your employer.

    Cost of American products could be drastically lowered by eliminating cost of health care being covered by employers.

    Catastrophic medical coverage is something we should all pay for through taxes. One for all, all for one. Personal medical disasters are kind of like tornadoes and hurricanes and earthquakes. We all pay for them in one way or another, wherever we live. We help out someone else in need, they help out us should we be in need.

    Then we can choose personal coverage based upon our situation, need, and ability to pay, just as we do for car and house and life insurance.

    I say if you choose/need to schedule a Dr. visit, pay for it.
    If is isn't serious, and no more visits are needed, insurance won't pay for that.
    If additional tests/visits/treatment are needed, and you weren't imagining you were sick, or just had a cold or something minor that could be treated in one visit, then insurance would kick in to cover the additional treatment.

    Of course those are just a few items covered. But the bottom line is that insurance companies have become the Mafia of the current times.
    They need to be put under control.

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